I am seriously blown away by how much of the @gnome software works on the smaller, touch-centric screen of the #Librem5.

The work of the GNOME team, the @purism crew, and so many independent developers that are making this happen... truly impressive.

All of you rule.

I find task switching on the #Librem5 (PureOS) really interesting.

The launcher and the switcher are the *same* view.

No apps are running: the grid of installed apps takes up the full view.

With apps are running: the top half becomes a row of the apps you can swipe through.

iOS and Android both have task switching and app launching as different functions and views. Are there any operating systems that put them together like on the #Librem5?

I'm drawing a blank. But I kind of dig it!

Installed unmodified desktop #DOSBox on my #Librem5.

Performance is fantastic (can play some great DOS-era games), but the display is just a tiny bit too big for the screen.

Then I remembered it fit on the Librem 5 dev kit with one line changed in the .conf. (Window size.)

I should make a patch for dosbox.conf in the package for the #Librem5. That way it'll fit on the screen just right for folks when they install it, with no fiddling.

Getting DOSBox just right on my phone.

I've got my personal priorities. ;)

@csolisr Both vim and emacs have long been in Termux on Android.

Though there's Androids wonderful random app termination...

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@dredmorbius @lunduke I've tried a lot of text editors, and there's one major problem they share: they can't edit a novel because it literally doesn't fit in memory! (At least, I'm working on one that clocks at around 250K words and I'm still trimming it)

@csolisr Vim definitely doesn't have that problem.

I don't know what its upper limits are, but suspect it's > 1 million pages.

@lunduke

@csolisr Vim on 32 bits: 2GB.

On 64 bits: Exabytes.

2 GB is about 1.3 million pages of 8-byte charactersets 250 words/pg.

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/12471311/what-is-the-largest-file-size-that-can-be-opened-by-vim-64-bit#12471446

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@dredmorbius @lunduke And the second major problem: it's not comfortable to be using the phone on one hand and a cheat sheet to remember what each button on Vim/Emacs does on the other.

@csolisr Learning vim properly helps markedly.

I invested the 2 weeks or so required back in the late 1980s. Skill-wise, probably one of the greatest payoffs ever for me.

Excellent video: https://invidio.us/watch?v=wlR5gYd6um0

(It taught me things, after 30+ years.)

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@dredmorbius

@lunduke

Not sure if it's an impairment, but the times I've attempted to do vimtutor, I can literally feel my brain forgetting the keybindings of chapter 2 to make space for chapter 3. It's one of those courses that are expected to be finished in a single session, anyway.

@csolisr That's where trating vim as a language, [count] + target + action, helps a lot.

The basic vim tutorial should give you the basics.

Beyond that: practice and familiarity.

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@dredmorbius @lunduke

I'm well aware of Vim keybindings being not unlike Regex, the problem is memorizing them all. I agree on the "Practice and Familiarity" part, but it's really difficult to reach that level when you need a cheat sheet for even moving the cursor.

@csolisr hjkl, based on the Lear Siegler ADM-3A terminal keyboard Bill Joy was using:

https://www.gilesorr.com/vim/linuxcon/

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@zaidka
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Now being serious, it'd be awesome if #Wine could run on #ARM

@tpharrison @lunduke is that application not kinda big in MB's?

@qwazix @lunduke ah, memories. Out of all my devices, platforms and technologies of the past - N900 and Maemo is the only thing I'm truly miss. It wasn't perfect device/OS, but it was perfect...

@lunduke with the default dialer, are there any settings where you can connect to a VoIP sip account?

@lunduke
Actually android has a similar experience.
By swiping up from the navigation bar, you open the multitasking view, which has a small dock on the bottom.
If you swipe up again, you open the entire app drawer

@ranfdev @lunduke isn’t all of this cribbed from WebOS?

@lunduke isn’t that pretty much how gnome is?

@lunduke
One of the first things I'm going to do when I get mine is put dosbox on it and then see if it'll run wizardry 7. If it does, it'll be nirvana.

@lunduke Whats the deal with your librem 5, it doesn't seem to charge? Asides from the initial charge from manufacture every photo shows it on charge and empty.
Also you promised videos! um pretty please :)

@lunduke only Good if you can play Doom!!

@lunduke I know Android 9 and up have a small row of apps it thinks you may want to launch at the bottom of the task management screen. But it's nothing compared to what it seems like PureOS here is doing.

@lunduke I think there were things like Palm OS, Jolla and Blackberry OS?

@lunduke I think the way Sailfish OS does it, it's slightly better, as it dedicates the whole screen to the task switching grid.

https://i1.wp.com/techworm.page/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/sailfishos-xperiaxa2-760x428.jpg?resize=760%2C428

@mariusor Sailfish definitely does it in an interesting way. I find the differences in task switching/management between different systems oddly fascinating. :)

@lunduke for me personally Purism's decision to not go with Sailfish or Nemo as an OS was the deciding factor in not supporting their campaign. Yet I am very happy their OS version is fulfilling other people's needs and that we have more options for non-Adroid linux mobile OSes. Maybe an application ecosystem will finally start growing... I know that on Sailfish it's a bit sparse at the moment. :D

@lunduke PS. sorry for getting off topic from your thread. :D

@lunduke I love the both together like that! It makes so much sense to be honest.

The Librem 5 is so exciting and I cannot wait to be able put my money towards this absolutely delightful project!

@lunduke @purism @byterazor

@lunduke Does Gnome Evolution work for email? I love that program.