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@kyle while we were (are) frantically jumping out of the fear of 1984 boiling waters we're steadily accepting the raising temperature in the broth of the brand new world

@geary "Geary also saves *on your device* sender and recipient email addresses *on your device*" - excessive "on your device"

@Goffi @byron @debacle @0 In XMPP encryption/authentication is always a policy decision, not protocol. So up to you to enforce TLS by not exposing any features except starttls on cleartext stream.
In general Collabora invested quite a lot of effort into that for OLPC (wiki.laptop.org/go/Activity_sh, wiki.laptop.org/go/Telepathy_S) but it's abandoned since 2010 either.

@dos absolutely, I have it as well for app development and it fits the purpose perfectly well (can even build many projects right on it). The reply was exactly to ridicule the meme.

@dos Nah did you try it on almost similarly specced but 5 times cheaper PinePhone? Oh wait...

@kyle figured it long ago on my own experience in Ingress game which is able to pick the location unless you really turn it off and spoof location. Stopped using it afterwards.

@lwriemen yes but the goal is not to find everyone infected, but to track the trend. You test 10 people and have 1 case so you have 10% ratio, you test 100 and has 10 cases so you still have 10% ratio, you test 1000 and have 177 - now you have 17% and raising trend.

@milo @lunduke
sorry what is the AT command to show the speed?

@lunduke does RaspberryPI v1.2 B count as retro-computing or it is limited strictly to 8-16bit platforms 16-32 years old?

@kyle while I'm open-source developer I want to note - when we speak of proprietary we mostly speak of 'technology', 'protocol' or 'product', not the code. Proprietary code is never in discussion as everyone knows how it's done.

@cstrotm thx, now I know how to choke my neighbour's streaming.

@lunduke Internet has always been anonymous (in the past, till mid 00), which is why there were little concerns about privacy. You could (and would) always de-anonymize yourself within your social bubble but otherwise - little or no identity whatsoever, only nicks, avatars, signatures. But it has very little to do with current concept of being "online".

@chrichri @PINE64 Yes that's exactly the form factor I had in mind. I was planing to buy that one some years ago but then friend of mine bought it and it appeared to be not mainlined at all so I dropped the idea. Now it is mainlined but I have braveheart with the same a64. so 11" Pro will be just the missing piece.

@PINE64
Any plans for 10"-12" version of the Pinebook Pro? I'd take one, but 14" is just too yuge for me.

@vimja @kuleszdl @mntmn It is essentially the same CPU and similar SoC as on phone, so kernel will be mainlined sooner ot later. The uboot though not that much I'm afraid.

@kyle rather a sweep contraption for your mouth

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