Oh! Goooood Lord
@purism Great news and looking forward to receiving my device and no longer be held to Apple/Android. But not so good if you aren’t technically minded or this is your first adventure into Linux, as it may be safer for you to wait until December onwards which is arguably not Q3 2019?????
They said 19Q3
September is Q3
--> OP delivers
@purism THICC. This might be my next after all.
@purism good job!
@purism Oh man, isn't that a beauty?
@purism will i be able to buy a molded case later and put the electronics in? on the pictures it looks easy to (re)place the boards :)
@purism Purism, you are the greatest. Keep on your great work it looks amazing.
@purism And they said it couldn't be done.
@purism Steve Jobs eat your fucking heart out. It looks incredible!
@purism Good job, they look gorgeous! Very happy to support a Libre phone :)
What about the RYF certification? Are you discussing with the FSF?
#Librem5 shipping announcement
FSF discussion: https://forums.puri.sm/t/questions-on-bluetooth/5938/7
In the post, it's not entirely clear if the Aspen - Dogwood models will receive the LTS software etc when it becomes available? Could someone confirm please?
@purism Wonderful! This is a huge achievement.
@purism the more i read this announcement the more disappointed i become, i pre-ordered the phone last year for original launch date in the Jan 2019, but as a novice with linux it may be best i wait until the Jan - Mar 2020 release. I expected some teething problems but i thought this would have been sorted by the 2 push back dates (Jan & Apr) and not having to wait until next year 😔
@purism Good news, but also confusing. I think you should at least add a table like this here to the post (or wherever one can choose their batch.)
@purism that is awesome.. is there a way (maybe by order date?) that I/we can tell which batch our/my order will be a part of?
@purism i have to question the mindset at Purism, why was resources put into Librem One for Apple and Android devices, when they are releasing their own device that hasn’t even a fully functioning (basic) web browser on launch date????
It's an awesome mindset: Purism helps people to transition away from big tech without the need for a hard disruption. You can try Librem Chat without having to use a Linux phone /laptop and even without paying.
For the same reason, you can stay in touch with your family in case you go "all in" with a Linux phone. It's a much saner approach than "making sure WhatsApp can work on the Librem 5", when a major reason to choose it is to leave such companies.
@purism Santa, now you know what I want for Christmas.
@purism Happy to see this kind of transparency. Well done.
@purism awesome! I'll be travelling for a year, leaving 28th Dec, so hopefully, I'm in on of the first 3 shipments!!! 🇦🇺
I'm really excited about the Librem 5, but I think you should have a backup phone. The Librem 5 is still in an experimental state from the software point of view.`
The compositor is still in its early days, and it may be too buggy for travel.
You may also (unfortunately) sometime need proprietary apps, which won't run on the Librem 5 at launch.
Good luck with your travel :)
@thibaultamartin yeah definitely, I plan to take my android with me.
@purism Will you issue refunds to those who don't want to wait longer for a finished product? I was expecting a production-quality product in September, not a prototype. It looks like that would be another 9 months delay.
As you're the second to ask this, I wonder why people who desperately wanted this phone (and possibly understand how hard it is, when others predicted failure) would consider to give up so close to success.
Reminds me of the two prisoners escaping, after climbing over 9 of 10 walls, one saying: "Enough is enough. I'll go back" ;)
@danielst @purism fair question. I felt misled by the recent Q3 launch promises, so my trust in the actual shipping date for the finished product (Q2’2020? Q4’2020?) is much reduced. If I get a refund I can still buy later if it ships. Or I could get a pinephone instead. Purism should have been more honest a few months ago. I don’t want to be a backer any more, I might still be a regular customer. I hope it clarifies it for you?
@danielst @Tryphon @purism ok i can see this point of view, but why the hell is a youtuber explaining this and not Purism, the customer service sucks, especially for me as i had so much trouble getting my Librem one family pack sorted, it took them over a week but they were happy to take a full months money and now none of us know where we are regarding which batch we’ll be in, it could be argued the Q3 2019 is a flat out lie!
On the youtuber, see
For general promise delivery appreciation, see
If I understand it correctly I should wait for one more year to have a phone that can compete with the rest of the mobile market?
@purism Great job people! It looks great!
@purism that's one *T H I C C* boii of a device
@purism yo where the heatsink at
Anyone know if the messaging app is encrypted? Or how secure it is? Bummed that Signal won't run on it, maybe in the future?
Also, what other messaging apps will work on it out of the gate?
@PiratePatriot our messaging app is encrypted. Take a look at our forums there are community projects for various Signal clients e.g https://forums.puri.sm/t/signal-client-for-the-librem-5/2743
Doesn't sound like anything has happened with that for a while. I guess I'll be waiting and see if Signal wishes to create an app themselves for Librem. Also will wait for some independent privacy/encryption testing on the Librem messaging app and how existing encryption means when communicating with someone on a imessage or android standard messenger.
It's nice to say you want to offer a phone with privacy, but you need to show your apps, especially messaging and email, are on par with those such as Signal and ProtonMail, and even BitWarden, or be working with those companies to create versions that will work with your phone. Without the apps folks want to use, and currently use, for privacy, the Librem just won't cut it IMO. You just end up asking everyone to switch, and get all their friends to switch, which is never easy. Won't buy a phone with so many questions about the apps themselves on the phone.
It looks good on your phone, but operators in France, such as Orange, Bouygues, SFR or Free for example, how do we do? I guess your phone is not currently offered in France with a subscription. Will you go with them to offer it with a subscription or will we have to buy the SIM card of one of these different operators in France to use your phone?
@jfmblinux yes currently you will have to buy the phone and get a SIM only deal.