Elias @eliasr@librem.one

Just discovered that there is a "libreplanet-se" mailing list, for free/libre software discussions specific to #Sweden: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/libreplanet-se/2021-05/threads.html

I subscribed and started a few threads:

- The Swedish Riksbank's new digital currency, "e-krona" -- could it use #GNU Taler?

- FLOSS at Swedish schools and universities?

"Free/libre alternatives to BankID and Swish?"

If you live in and/or care about Sweden, join the mailing list you too. Let's change the world starting here! 🙂

#freesoftware

@dragestil@hostux.social I see, but then you can email Hannah Wolfman-Jones and say so, I think she can sort it out somehow.

Or email me at mail@eliasrudberg.se with your postal address, then I can send you one. I was anyway about to order a couple of extra copies (since I'm anyway already Amazon-contaminated, so to speak) to give to people around here, I can send one to you as well. 🙂

@jonarvid

"Opposition mot massövervakning lyser med sin frånvaro"

"Flera av våra folkvalda vill uppenbarligen låta avlyssna befolkningen utan konkret brottsmisstanke och utan domstolsbeslut, och är därmed beredda att lämna de grundläggande fundamenten för demokratisk rättsskipning.
[...]
Att det för närvarande inte heller finns någon tydlig opposition som tar strid mot denna riktning i riksdagen är oroande – vi är långt ifrån 2008 års häftiga debatt om FRA-lagen."

https://bahnhof.se/press/press-releases/2021/05/05/opposition-mot-massovervakning-lyser-med-sin-franvaro

@dragestil@hostux.social

That page also says, under "Purchase with Cryptocurrency Below":

"If your browser does not support all javascript libraries, you can use an HTML only version of the checkout when prompted on the next page. You can pay with currencies other than BTC using the conversion tab at checkout."

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@dragestil@hostux.social

Yes, the https://wetheweb.info/shop/ page says the following:

"System Override is available in ebook and physical form. To pay with $USD or other fiat currency click on the green link to purchase from Amazon. If you would like to pay by check, are unable to pay but would like a copy, or need assistance contact [Hannah's email]. Richard Stallman suggests you respect your freedom and purchase with crypto or check, not on Amazon."

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@kyle Ha! Papa Don't Preach?

Receiving MMS messages on the #librem5 is getting closer to working by default. In #PureOS byzantium the needed #libqmi and #ModemManager fixes are already there now, we just need to add #mmsd and purple-mm-sms manually: https://source.puri.sm/Librem5/chatty/-/issues/30#note_157487 Thanks to Chris T and @craftyguy #GNU #Linux #chatty #freesoftware @purism

"Restoring democracy, in the US and many other countries, is the overarching political struggle of our time, and it extends into many areas of life. Campaigning to eliminate unjust digital systems is one aspect of that struggle."

From chapter 5, page 60, in the new book "System Override". It has chapters independently written by Nadine Strossen, Pia Mancini, Brittany Kaiser, Richard Stallman, Hannah Wolfman-Jones, and Santiago SIri. Chapter 5 is written by Stallman.

https://www.wetheweb.org/post/about-the-book

@be

OK let's assume that A by itself causes a problem.

That problem can be solved by merging A+B but then B contains something that some people object to.

Then it might be better to merge A+X where X fixes the problem.

Those who want B will say that B nicely solves the problem so X is not needed. But they should respect that some people are skeptical to the feature Y that is included in B. In this case merge A+X first, then move on to discuss whether or not B should be merged after that.

@be

Insist on keeping things separate when they can be separate. Like, if you want to do something that requires changes A and B, then keep A and B separate and explain why A is a good change by itself. Then when A is done, move on to B.

I think this is better even if it might at first sight seem as a "longer path" to where you want to go. Trying to merge the combination A+B directly as a single change would risk more disagreements, even if that (A+B) may be where you are going in the end.

That's the spirit! Let's keep moving forward.

@eastcoastweb

What? The "land of the free"?
Whoever told you that is your enemy

https://social.librem.one/@eliasr/106009265545338913

@redstarfish

Das Leben der Anderen

@trregeagle

> We all need to get our shit together

True. I'm trying to do better myself.

A good thing is that with each new conversation, there is a new chance to be respectful. With a better tone from the start there is a better chance of getting a more reasonable response from "the other side" as well.

@mntmn

I liked this recording, it's Bradley M. Kuhn talking about FOSS, from 2004:
http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/bradley_kuhn-swfreedom_and_gnu_generation-apr04.ogg

From the collection here: http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/

@redstarfish

True, it's a bit something, what to call it, "not nice" to tell people what to do like that.

But there is still a point in letting them know that people like you exist, that there are people who would like to make a bug report but who are reluctant to do it because it requires using Github.

I think many people think Github is all that exists, that everyone is using Github and that there is no problem with that. (Which of course is exactly the attitude Microsoft wants to see.)

@redstarfish

How about filing a Github issue called "please move away from Github to a more freedom-respecting solution" or similar?

I have a Github account (shameful, I know) so I could do it.

@trregeagle

That thinking comes from good intentions but it has in many cases gone too far, to the point where all that matters is who you are, you no longer need to present a solid argument based on good facts and logic, or at least that is less important compared to who you are.

This has led to people just following their group without thinking critically --> cancel culture etc.

I do sympathize with the “progressive activists” but they need to get their shit together in this regard.

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@trregeagle Interesting. I think the “progressive activists” have ended up in that not so good situation as a result of the
“they seek to correct the historic marginalization of groups" thing. While that is an admirable goal, it has lead to the idea that when someone says something, the most important thing is not what was said but who said it. The idea is that we should listen to people who belong to marginalized groups, only they can properly understand and describe their own experiences.

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@eastcoastweb

I will gladly live without addons if that saves me from Chrome/Chromium.