João Azevedo @joao@librem.one

@ariadne

IMO seems like a nice argument to post in the issue ticket that pmos opened on the topic instead of a social network

@aurocha uma das possiveis soluções apontadas foi:
tirar todo o firmware non-free do repo non-free e criar um novo repo so para firmware non-free e assim o pessoal podia ter as cenas pa meter o wifi a funcionar sem habilitar acesso a todos os pacotes non-free.

Mas é o projeto debian onde não ha BDFL e decisoes como essa provavelmente teria que ir a votos numa resolução geral.

@aurocha Calma, a noticia é um pouco exgerada. Na ultima #debconf houve uma tertúlia informal sobre como lidar com firmware não livre.

Daí a haver uma mudança tão grande na política seguida pelo projeto debian, vai uma grande distância.

Como lidar com o firmware não livre já é conversado à muito tempo dentro do projeto debian.

@KekunPlazas having that community featured in the documentary being called "anarchist" is an insult to anarchists.

@KekunPlazas yes, that HBO series about libertarians "ancaps" but that says that it is about anarchists.

Just finished watching the third episode of The Anarchists (2022) https://www.hbo.com/the-anarchists and man... Bakunin must be rolling in his grave at the moment...

@chpietsch

Do you realize that the argument you just posted is much more informative and contributes better to a debate on what tool to use than a simple:

"This is embarrassing"

That is a nice online rant but not really an argument.

@postmarketOS

@chpietsch

What is embarrassing about git send-email it is used by one of the largest FOSS projects out there, the linux kernel?

Also sourcehut has a webinterface to submit the patches.

@postmarketOS

@Tay0

Also as a disclaimer: I am not a member or user of #pmos project.

Simply got triggered with:

- A project makes an effort to start an online debate and present their arguments to start the debbate
- then people assuming the decision is already made for

:facepalm:

Instead of speculating that "the decision is already made" on social media
How about checking for yourself if that speculative idea of your is true or not by actually participating in the debate.

@postmarketOS

@Tay0

If they had already made up their minds do you think #pmos would have bothered to make the blogpost, the podcast with their arguments and opening the discussion and _asking_ for feedback on this idea, and mentioning in the blogpost that they can backtrack on it?

TL;DR if you actually have a contribution and arguments for this debate, make a comment on the ticket and read the arguments in the blogpost first.
instead if just making posts in a social media.

@postmarketOS

@Tay0

Are you sure you do not prefer to make your comments in the discussion ticket that pmos opened for this topic instead of having your argument lost in social media threads/walls of text. Link to the ticket is at the end of the blogpost.

@postmarketOS

@chrichri so you wanted a "beta" without easter eggs? ;)