Elias @eliasr@librem.one

@JohanAlfredeen tack! paprikan är lite som en vindruva då... kanske funkar som tapas om du marinerar den med massa vitlök? 🙂

@JohanAlfredeen det här går ju inte, jag vet inte hur stor Milou är.

@annaardin särskilt obehagligt med den där parentesen. Ju yngre person desto större anledning att utöva förtryck mot personen, tydligen.

@agx ok, thanks!

Is there anything mere mortals like myself can do to help making Crimson ready?

@JoWa hur var den?

@agx @purism Great work! When are Librem 5 users getting this? My L5 is still on phosh 0.29 so two versions behind. By my count it's now 8 weeks since the release of phosh 0.30 (Aug 3) -- is something wrong, or are there reasons why such long delay is needed?

Read this: https://balkaninsight.com/2023/09/25/who-benefits-inside-the-eus-fight-over-scanning-for-child-sex-content/

Quote:

"The Commission has been reluctant to detail the relationship between Thorn and Johansson’s cabinet under the EU’s freedom of information mechanism. [...] disclosure [...] would undermine the organisation’s commercial interest”."

So we cannot have democracy because that would hurt the "commercial interest" of those who want to sell their mass-surveillance technology to the EU.

#ChatControl #StopChatControl #StoppaChatControl #svpol #eupol #democracy

@jon absolutely, go ahead. Sorry for bothering you.

@jon

> welcome *technical* and NOT
> *political/ethical* answers

So you assume it is possible to separate those?

I don't think that works, technology is politics 🙂

In your question you ask what is "better", but what is meant by "better" is very political. "Better" for whom? For society, for some kind of common good, or for a certain company's business? That's political.

Photo of #GamlaStan taken from the #Skeppsholmsbron bridge this morning. Trying to compete with @stockholmpixels

#stockholm #stockholmbypixels #cityphotography #ShotOnLibrem5

@Mer__edith @franzmueller @nateb

I mean, the EU is huge and there must normally be a procedure where experts in the field will review any proposal before it is presented. But in this case, experts have been ignored. How is that possible? All experts say it is madness.

The process of how the proposal was created is deeply flawed. That should be investigated, and it could be done by a journalist who does not need deep technical knowledge, it's a problem at another level, about how the EU works.

@Mer__edith

> but I'm logged into Twitter.
> So maybe that's the difference?

People should stop putting things on Twitter and instead publish in a way so that other people can actually read it.

On the topic itself, I think it is a very good idea to dig into where these things come from. Whose agenda is it really? I also wondered that regarding the EU "chatcontrol 2" proposal, it seems strange how something so idiotic can come as far as it has. Something is not right.

@franzmueller
@nateb

@meraord Grattis i efterskott 🙂

@jxself good luck on the trip!

I won't be able to come there myself but I'm with you in spirit 🙂

@Ibex @malveus @Krux_22 @Nlandersson @Lillefot @epikrisa @rwid74

> wikipedia har väl ändå lite krav på
> källhänvisningar vilket är något
> ChatGPT verkar ha lite svårt med

Ja, och ändå har de använt wikipedia som input, "träning" eller vad de nu kallar det. Det är uppenbart att systemet är olagligt, ingen borde använda det. Företag som har "tjänster" där såna system spottar ur sig info som egentligen kommer från wikipedia. Fy fan. Organiserad brottslighet är vad "Open""AI" & co sysslar med.

@Julia @emilymbender what those big tech companies are doing is disgusting, but I'm thinking what needs to happen is not so complicated after all: whoever makes such a system must be required to declare exactly what "training" data they use as input and if even a single one of those inputs requires attribution, like Wikipedia, then the system is obviously illegal to use.

I do realize that this is very far from what is happening now. But still. In principle the issue could be handled like that?

I was just sitting there minding my own business, watching the kids football game IFK Bergshamra - IF Brommapojkarna 6 earlier today, when suddenly this little fellow being landed on my knee. #dragonfly #trollslända #ShotOnLibrem5