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"why use multiple files if everything ends up in the same memory anyway?!"

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@Lehmanator @CalcProgrammer1 No VoLTE. If you use verizon (which shut off their 2G towers), that means no calls. For others, it means a 2G call experience (grainy), if your mic/speakers work. Calls on mobile linux have been janky in my experience (bad alsa UCM's, issues with pulseaudio, pipewire, callaudiod --restarting often helps).

@float13 @Lehmanator is supposed to be the right answer (but has no google play services); I would say a better airgap is to have a second device that's not connected to the internet (and use an offline-capable maps app, like ).
Being comfortable saying no to most proprietary services is prerequisite to daily-driving mobile linux.

@CalcProgrammer1 @Lehmanator My modem is in the mode "allowed: 2g, 3g, 4g; preferred: 4g" and it seems to do the switching automatically. (on TMobile's network in the USA, FWIW)
That being said, I use with .chat for telephony, and that has less jank, along with working on multiple devices at a time.
Why let the carriers lock you out of the PSTN when JMP.chat can bridge the gap using open source SW.

@dcz I used to use -ime-type git.sr.ht/~emersion/wl-ime-typ as my agent as it was faster than , but it doesn't support deletion, or rather nonterminal apps insert delete characters when I send them with it.

@Lehmanator is here. Buy a or and enjoy a "mainline" experience with (or ). Or maybe go for the halium experience by buying a (bootloader-unlocked) and running (or ). Even try a or . I'm sure there are other daily-drivable devices too, you said "any level of jank".

@llimllib I like a lot of the cli utilities which have come out of the rust age. Someone once said "POSIX should be replaced when the time is right". It would be nice to have independent implementations and a standard for which flags can be assumed to be supported so a single vendor doesn't have all the power.

@vitali64sur Can we just autoban anyone who posts YouTube or Discord links?

@linmob I wonder if linuxphoneapps.org/ could have a category for sxmo appscripts, so it's easier to discover cool stuff like this.

@mattj @mms A proper phone? Like one I can plug into the wall and set up on my mantle?

I managed to prove the HW is working thanks to some things here wiki.postmarketos.org/wiki/Als

So I guess just the config is wrong for my oneplus 6.

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Audio on my daily driver running has had a major regression this week (maybe hardware problem?) and now I think I need to buy a different phone.

@linmob @droidian Went to the website and filled out the survey. Dissappointed that there were no questions about headphone jack/bluetooth [call] audio, microSD-card storage and booting from external storage, camera capabilities, or multi-sim.

While I believe there's room in the market for something between the pinephone(pro)/librem5 and the [popular used android phone with decent mobile linux support], I fear they'll be too close to the latter to stand out.

@craftyguy @bart I have kde-default-icon-theme and breeze-icons5... maybe there's a missing breeze-icons6 package?

@Idcrafter @linuxphoneapps Does anyone happen to know the name of the package on that provides icons for apps? It's not very usable with a bunch of blank ui elements.

@SrEstegosaurio @BrodieOnLinux It's an honest question: "how many versions of wlroots do we want to support at a time?" The space-saving benefit of using a distribution's packaging diminishes when each project relies on a different specific version of something. (in this case, it's wlroot's "fault" for unstable api/abi combined with slow release cadence, and I look forward to a hypothetical wlroots 1.x which will be good enough for all)

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