I remember when it seemed like the open chat standard XMPP "won" 15 years ago when Google Talk adopted it. It seemed like maybe the bad old days of proprietary chat protocols were over.

Google of course abandoned XMPP and later 5 or so other chat protocols. Today the messaging world is a mess of proprietary protocols and networks all reinventing the same wheels.

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@kyle XMPP lives its own life, just not as open standard but rather as simple framework for proprietary enterprise messaging/voice protocols. Cisco, Microsoft, Zoom - name a few more - all use XMPP and SIP as a foundation for their voice/media solutions.

@ruff @kyle the open standard is still there, used, and improving. Follow projects like or jmp.chat and you'll find communities that are active and doing interesting things to grow XMPP.

@keverets @kyle What I mean is - if you say Jabber to common enterprise folks, max they would think of is Cisco Jabber UC solution (if they are not that much technical) or MS Teams federation services (if they are deep in this business). But when you tell them telegram, viber, whatsup - they won't have a second thought. Otherwise (just fyi) - I'm tightly following xmpp council and maintaining some legacy xmpp products.

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