@safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @hacknorris @2T2@mstdn.starnix.network It could be a Windows 10 Mobile phone, I have one. It has a browser and it's fast, but it's EOL and doesn't have lastest shiny features so a lot of websites just don't work.
Last time I tried even Proton's web interface and Hydrogen (lightweight Matrix web client) stopped working. So I put Windows 11 on it — now it's not a phone, it's a PC 🤣
@daksh
For example software just crashes on some invalid input, devs need only problem description to reproduce it and probably the logs, but you don't want them to see your open windows so you exclude the screenshot. Other issue is a GUI bug so you send the screenshot, but not the system logs.
If the user doesn't care he could just use the defaults, but there should be choice.
This is a real privacy issue, just not the kind you wanted to discuss 😅
@daksh Oh, sorry, I didn't make my point clear.
Companies could fix this by making crash reporting more transparent, but often choose not to. For example in Windows you can only flip the switch, whether you want to send "extended" info or not. What is extended and what is a bare minimum is not obvious. Apple's crash reporter used to be better, still not perfect.
There are good implementations: all information gets divided in sections and you can place a checkmark against each section.
@inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @cyberspook @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @dushman You may be right, but this article is just bad. Hardening in the OS is not good enough so we can just install Android 🤷
Hardware switches are not good enough because we can just use software airplane mode 🤦
Having modem on a separate board so that we can physically disconnect it is not good enough because we can just ask SoC to do it (and trust it) 🤯
It doesn't mean that Liberm5 is perfect, but these points are just awful!
@inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @cyberspook @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @dushman What's with the TPM 2.0 requirement of Windows then? Is it to verify bootloader only? I don't think so.
They've made it mandatory in Windows 11 only, but it was there way earlier than that.
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@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @inference @iska@mstdn.starnix.network You can always resort to hardware firewall in case of emergency!
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network So can my cheap $200 Chinese phone. Ubuntu touch too.
Sailfish is also far from perfect and it uses Qt, which I personally don't like, but most are fine with it. It definitely has more software than UbuntuTouch though
My perfect device would run something like Void with something sway or dwm based on top of it, like SWMO/SXMO.
No such device exists, but a man can dream…
Firefox will still be bad with touch input though 😂
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook US is still "slightly" better though. I'd better go to the US gulag than the Chinese one 🤣
I think it started to matter after those rumours that Supermicro servers had backdoors at NIC level. I don't know if it's true, probably bullshit, but supply chain might matter to some 🤷
I'm fine with the fact that we have it. More choice — good for the market.
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network PinePhone Pro is newer, so yes, it is.
>Pro¹ X
Looks nice spec-wise. UbuntuTouch is a mess though. It still uses Ubuntu 16.04 as base — too old. They are migrating to 18.10 now AFAIK, but it's not there yet. They are even thinking about 20.04.
Anyway if it runs UT without Android compatibility layer, you can run something like Mobian or PostmarketOS on it. Good!
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook Oh, and of course the hardware RFkill switches. That too!
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook Librem5 is not about free software only, but also about secure supply chain — that's its main selling point, hence the price. They've even had a version that's assembled in the US, maybe they still have.
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network Like what? Both, Librem5 and PinePhone Pro are a bit underpowered to say the least. Even compared to modern midrange phones that come with Android. Is there anything else out there?
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network It was. Then they've renamed it to Firefox Mobile and this Fennec we have now is a fork: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
@lunarised @iska@mstdn.starnix.network He's probably bad at what he does, but I don't really know anything about him so I just made a stupid joke, sorry 😅
@lunarised @iska@mstdn.starnix.network If he knows how to destroy a computer, he's fine. Probably the most effective tactic anyway.
@daksh I still think it's disturbing. A lot of people, especialy non-tech-savvy ones, don't even think how this information is handled, what kind of information gets sent with crash reports. And if they knew, they'd be concerned.
Free software often lets you view what is sent and explicitly approve it, non-free software more often doesn't.
So it is still privacy violating in a way, but yes, it is out of scope of your question.
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