@dansup how to delete loops account pls? I can't watch anything without an app and I don't have a smartphone.

@prahou is it possible to learn the power of not having a smartphone

@ozzelot yes, become a niche content creator living off sticker sales

@prahou @ozzelot
I'm unemployed and although I have a smartphone, it sometimes manages to collect several layers of dust over the course of weeks 😆

@prahou @ozzelot
Screen time? Which apps I use the most? 🤔
My smartphone usage patterns are something like this 🤪

@ozzelot @prahou
I have to admit, I'm a bit of a cheater: I have my olde Lumia, which I mostly use as a remote for TV, mpv, and cmus connected to the audio system — stuff like that. I sometimes pick it up to browse Gemini pointlessly, doomscroll the RSS feeds and hang out on Fedi — but it's hardly as intrusive, the browser it has is very old, with a little CSS face lift Bloat looks neat, but most websites don't work, and there are no notifications which make you pick up the phone again.

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@ozzelot @prahou
Sadly, this does NOT help the procrastination problem 😩
Right now I'm cross-compiling old Firefox ESR for my ThinkPad T43 — because that is what I now use on my other machines. Why am I doing this? I don't know — I barely ever use the web browser on that machine.
I mean it's probably better than scrolling through funny cat images — fixing compilation issues is like solving puzzles, right? 🤓
But that is now what I SHOULD BE doing 😅

@m0xee @prahou "should" is a prison
(i say, my resume safely castled and not showing itself to the world too much)

@m0xee @ozzelot move from firefox to links2, the desire to browse the web disappears almost instantly.

@prahou @ozzelot
I use that ThinkPad in a different room with no other computers, helps me concentrate. And sometimes I have to resort to using Firefox — better than going to a different room, turning another computer on. It's like casual "old computer challenge" for me, this old machine with only 2 gigs of RAM can only handle a few tabs in Firefox, so it's not even running most of the time, but I have it there just in case 😉

@prahou @m0xee come to think... the 2008 mebuk also only has 2 gigarams... wonder what it can do

@ozzelot @m0xee it's probably a fish thing, but on my T42, even with a decked out (2gigs) ram, firefox would crash halfway through rendering any page that had more than four words on it.

@prahou @m0xee triapul: the maximum amount of words your fox can fire

@ozzelot @m0xee no, but some witches use them as offerings to chernobog!

@prahou @ozzelot
It very well could be, on Linux it's rock solid though. I was actually thinking of switching to some sort of BSD on this machine… Yeah, the Fish most probably, FreeBSD is about to drop support for x86 anyway.
I'm a bit scared that it might turn into another big procrastination quest — so… no, let's leave it be!
(I'll restrain myself to just building FF for it 😅)

@m0xee @ozzelot
> FreeBSD is about to drop support for x86 anyway.
already did afaik

Fish is good. Fish is reliable.

@prahou @m0xee the flagged bsd just added support for wii (and by just i mean sometime in the past 6 months or so)

@prahou @ozzelot
Yep, I've been eyeing it for years now, but my (mostly fruitless) attempts to tone down on computer-related autism get in the way.
Should I turn T43 on and test newly built Firefox or should I consider starting cooking the dinner instead now that I have all the ingredients?
Or! Maybe I should shut down my Plenomer instance (so slow on G4, barely usable anyway) and switch to snac2 finally? 🫠

@ozzelot @prahou
The dinner became supper, but a success nonetheless! 🤤
Sorry for non-vegan content, in case you're one — I assure you, it was already dead when I found it… in the fridge 😏

But what's best — I now have a week worth of it: huge bowl of bulgur and over 3 litres of soup. Now I can just reheat it — all the more time to waste on computerneering!

@prahou @ozzelot
That's a great plan, sticking to it!
And not that I'm surprised, but Firefox downgrade worked! 🤩

@prahou @ozzelot @m0xee my latitude D610 seems capable of doing it on 2GB with a Pentium M, at least for a little bit.
Not very fast however.

@prahou @ozzelot
Yeah! Mozilla did not abandon marginal architectures like Google did. I've even built Firefox for my PowerMac G5 — it's buggy and it's slower than snails on their lazy day, but it runs!
On i686 Firefox is still in excellent shape — at least on my machines it's stable. I'm paranoid and have dozen of extensions which might contribute to bad performance, but with a couple of tabs open it's quite usable even.

@prahou @ozzelot
Not to brag, but I've spent the whole COVID summer in the country having only this machine on my hands. I've been using it in multi-display setup even… OMG, why, it only has two gigs 🤦
And… (drum roll) I had tried Skype calls on it a couple of times — without video of course, T43 if so cool that it doesn't have a web cam, but audio calls worked!

@prahou @ozzelot
Otherwise I mostly use TUI software there: gomuks for Matrix chats, tut for Fedi, mutt for email, Amfora for Gemini and vim for everything else, the Web… I'm of a w3m man myself — it can display images in patched st with sixel support, which is nice.
There is this new chawan browser: sr.ht/~bptato/chawan/
It also supports images and even has support for CSS and JS which you do not normally see in a TUI browser.

@prahou @ozzelot
It's cool and all, but I could not build it for this x86 machine. Surprisingly, for 32-bit PowerPC and ARM machines I've built it with minor fixes 🤔 It's a very odd error, but I'm not skilled enough with Nim to fix it myself.
It has a weird public domain license that for some might be off-putting, if you aren't picky — check it out, it's really cool, it supports the Web AND Gemini, albeit without client certificates — so for Gemini it's "read only" at the moment, still not bad!

@m0xee @ozzelot

> I use that ThinkPad in a different room with no other computers, helps me concentrate.

i'm doing the same with my thinkpad. it's similar to going into a cave or isolated room to write and think.
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