@lunduke Microsoft has always followed in IBM's footsteps, and Google is following in Microsoft's. Microsoft is currently at the phase where IBM spray painted Tux on SF sidewalks.

@kyle @lunduke except they're still a fully proprietary software company. They "love" Linux and open source like a tapeworm loves a healthy digestive system.

@kyle @lunduke all those keen (and highly paid) "open source advocates" are being paid, 100%, out of the spoils of user exploitation by proprietary software.

@lightweight @lunduke It's easy to forget that IBM was once seen as MS was 20 years ago and Google is now. I'm unclear how the MS in your example is different from the IBM of the spraypaint Tux era. They hired Linux developers from proceeds came from proprietary mainframe software and services.

Once difference is at the time the Linux community was desperate for a giant in its corner so they were more willing to embrace what before then was the original evil 800lb gorilla.

@kyle @lunduke true. Now Microsoft is trying a different (bolder) approach from IBM - they're engaging in EEE. They're hoping to co-opt open source (and kill Free Software in the process by casting so much shade on it) by using a few key technologies (like Github, Azure, and Active Directory) to lock people into platforms where they profit, regardless of whether people use FOSS or proprietary.

@kyle @lunduke in the intervening years, there're now "foundations" that ostensibly represent FOSS communities (in reality they have only a very tenuous grasp on representation) which can be "bought out" by rich proprietary corporate interests. This results in psychological and financial dependencies that can be used as leverage and eventually control. That's the Embrace part.

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@lightweight @kyle @lunduke much Like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, trying to hide the evil under the good.

@lwriemen @kyle @lunduke@librem Gates shouldn't have the money he does. At best, he's a carpet bagger and a railroad baron. He's certainly not admirable.

@lwriemen @kyle And we'll find, eventually, that the Gates Foundation isn't nearly as altruistic in its practices as its spin promotes... if you're not sure what I'm alluding to, talk to the Indians and Africans...

@lwriemen @kyle sorry, I misinterpreted your post as being sarcastic :) Apologies

@lightweight @lwriemen @kyle It's interesting that Gates and his foundation are reviled by progressives, libertarians, *and* conservatives, yet he's inescapable on mainstream media as being portrayed as a magical guru.

@stevefoerster @lwriemen @kyle He's at best a digital railroad baron, will all the dirty dealings that implies.

@stevefoerster @lwriemen @kyle yeah, mostly the MSM is trying to sell advertising rather than provide anything like truth.

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