its almost if they want to start a revolution but god dam the right wingers are such faggots

@11112011

Well liberals are generally non violent, and just want to be left alone with lower taxes. Commies are the ones that want to take stuff by force because they're not smart enough to win through actual work.

@nerdman Communists were pretty instrumental in many labour movements to achieve things like 40 work week. @11112011

@terryenglish @11112011

Horses were instrumental in industrializing. We don't use them for industrial work anymore. Some things become obsolete with time and technological advancements.

@nerdman What can I say, I believe in giving credit where it's due even though I personally am not a communist. @11112011

@terryenglish @11112011

I'll be the first to say, "Thanks communism for all the positives things you brought to us", at communism's funeral where we put it in the cremation oven and prepare to sadly spread it's ashes over the sands of history.

@nerdman We can do the same for capitalism. 👍 @11112011

@terryenglish @11112011

But we won't because it works. As recognized by Lenin when NEP, Deng Xiaoping after they got rid of Mao, etc.

@nerdman Capitalism works 😂 That's a good one! It worked right up to the point our species wiped itself out following the logic of a failed system. It had it's time. Time to find something new. @11112011

@terryenglish captitalism works better than everything else, so much so that even anti capitalist systems are forced to implement it either to keep the populace distracted or to keep the money coming and have any appearance of successful economic models.


@nerdman @11112011

@Prodigal Sound a little defensive guy. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish

Capitalism allowed Trudeau to spend 500 billion dollars in CERB and similar benefits the past 2 years.

Businesses made under capitalism pay taxes or remit taxes on behalf of its skilled T4 employees.


@11112011 @nerdman

@Prodigal How is that capitalism? That is the government using it's power to provide benefits to it's citizens during a crisis. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish I lol’d at “govt provide benefits to its citizens” lol it’s the other way around.


@11112011 @nerdman

@Prodigal It's give and take like most things in life. The fact is that government is doing less now for ordinary people because we're constantly losing the struggle for control for state power with economic elites. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish

Or put simply, we the people breathed life into the govt but politicized multinational corps and interests became the govts sugar daddy.


@11112011 @nerdman

@Prodigal To put it even more simply: capitalism overriding democracy. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish

Capitalism isn’t corporate wealth.

It’s a system that allows greedy and needy parties to compete rather fairly for resources without resorting to violence and death directly.

Under communism and socialism, when there is food for 900 but 1000 are hungry, the elite govt decide who eats and who dies.

With capitalism, someone might be greedy enough to come up with a way to feed the last 100 but make them pay for it.


@11112011 @nerdman

@Prodigal Yes it absolutely is part of the construct of really existing capitalism. If you want to talk about some sort of fantasy capitalism you may untag me now. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish

Sure thing, as long as your reasoning is akin to:

“Basketball sucks because Tall people have a major advantage”

We have no other reason to communicate.


@11112011 @nerdman

@Prodigal In basketball, do the players that lose get forced to live a life of destitution? I think we've hit the end when we're delving into poor analogies and bad faith arguments. @11112011 @nerdman

@terryenglish

Only govt policies can force a life of destitution.

Imagine a govt policy that increased your tax refund based on how much debt you paid off in a year?

In capitalism, only a lack of skill or Will keeps you destitute, even if it is not free market capitalism.

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Yeah the analogy was good, if you are a bad player you get fired and you will be destitute.

You will have to go to some minor league or foreign league to play basket ball and be paid way less than the NBA.

Facts.

If the whole team sucks, the coach would get laid off at first and if it continues, the team owner would sell the team because fans don’t buy tickets to see the team play.

Facts.


A bad basketball player cannot blame his poor performance on the rules of the game of basketball.


Facts.

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Know the rules, know thyself, know hard work, know success.

Learn from Muggsy Bogues


@11112011 @nerdman
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@Prodigal

"Only govt policies can force a life of destitution."

This is just straight up not true. What do you think being terminated or laid off from a company is? Government can also implement policies that alleviate destitution. Hey let's do that.

"Imagine a govt policy that increased your tax refund based on how much debt you paid off in a year?"

What does this have to do with anything? I believe this is already the case with some kinds of debt (at least in Canada)

@Prodigal

"In capitalism, only a lack of skill or Will keeps you destitute, even if it is not free market capitalism."

I'll be sure to tell this to every mentally ill drug addict homeless person I see that poverty cycles don't exist and that they have only themselves to blame for their poverty and misery.

@Prodigal

"Yeah the analogy was good, if you are a bad player you get fired and you will be destitute."

Yeah it was so good that you had to change it. Yes I did notice that.

Facts: You're a fucking idiot that individualizes societal problems.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cycle_of_poverty