Well liberals are generally non violent, and just want to be left alone with lower taxes. Commies are the ones that want to take stuff by force because they're not smart enough to win through actual work.
Horses were instrumental in industrializing. We don't use them for industrial work anymore. Some things become obsolete with time and technological advancements.
I'll be the first to say, "Thanks communism for all the positives things you brought to us", at communism's funeral where we put it in the cremation oven and prepare to sadly spread it's ashes over the sands of history.
But we won't because it works. As recognized by Lenin when NEP, Deng Xiaoping after they got rid of Mao, etc.
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Capitalism allowed Trudeau to spend 500 billion dollars in CERB and similar benefits the past 2 years.
Businesses made under capitalism pay taxes or remit taxes on behalf of its skilled T4 employees.
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Or put simply, we the people breathed life into the govt but politicized multinational corps and interests became the govts sugar daddy.
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Capitalism isn’t corporate wealth.
It’s a system that allows greedy and needy parties to compete rather fairly for resources without resorting to violence and death directly.
Under communism and socialism, when there is food for 900 but 1000 are hungry, the elite govt decide who eats and who dies.
With capitalism, someone might be greedy enough to come up with a way to feed the last 100 but make them pay for it.
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Only govt policies can force a life of destitution.
Imagine a govt policy that increased your tax refund based on how much debt you paid off in a year?
In capitalism, only a lack of skill or Will keeps you destitute, even if it is not free market capitalism.
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Yeah the analogy was good, if you are a bad player you get fired and you will be destitute.
You will have to go to some minor league or foreign league to play basket ball and be paid way less than the NBA.
Facts.
If the whole team sucks, the coach would get laid off at first and if it continues, the team owner would sell the team because fans don’t buy tickets to see the team play.
Facts.
A bad basketball player cannot blame his poor performance on the rules of the game of basketball.
Facts.
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Know the rules, know thyself, know hard work, know success.
Learn from Muggsy Bogues
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"Only govt policies can force a life of destitution."
This is just straight up not true. What do you think being terminated or laid off from a company is? Government can also implement policies that alleviate destitution. Hey let's do that.
"Imagine a govt policy that increased your tax refund based on how much debt you paid off in a year?"
What does this have to do with anything? I believe this is already the case with some kinds of debt (at least in Canada)
"In capitalism, only a lack of skill or Will keeps you destitute, even if it is not free market capitalism."
I'll be sure to tell this to every mentally ill drug addict homeless person I see that poverty cycles don't exist and that they have only themselves to blame for their poverty and misery.
"Yeah the analogy was good, if you are a bad player you get fired and you will be destitute."
Yeah it was so good that you had to change it. Yes I did notice that.
Facts: You're a fucking idiot that individualizes societal problems.
I didn’t change it, I had to explain it to you.
The cycle of poverty is dude to govt intervention.
Referee is a near invisible party in the game of basketball; likewise government should be a near invisible regulatory party in the game of markets
@Prodigal Whatever you say my dude.
@Prodigal Yes bad government policy is bad therefore we need good government policy.
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"In capitalism, only a lack of skill or Will keeps you destitute, even if it is not free market capitalism."
I'll be sure to tell this to every mentally ill drug addict homeless person I see that poverty cycles don't exist and that they have only themselves to blame for their poverty and misery.
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I’m sure you would agree that the homeless person you described above lacks the Will to avoid destitution thru their own actions.
They are mentally and behaviourally impaired.
Still, if their impairment allows them some functionality, they can do basic work as a cleaner.
We don’t even need the govt to give them social assistance, we can delete that govt department and replace it with privately run non profits in each municipality that would handle that.
Then I would donate or volunteer there, lower my tax bill, and all the government needs is a small civil service team to visit and check up on such facilities.
The burden on the tax payer will lower.
So much of what govt does private citizenry can do with more focus and efficiencies.
@Prodigal We are now back to the fantasy land of ancapistan. Where those who are severely mentally ill are holding down jobs, replacing one institution with thousands is more efficient and pockets of private citizens getting together is not government.
No, you need govt for law enforcement and killing people (military).
Govt sucks at most other things
Govt policies and statutes made it easy for some individuals to amass wealth with little competition.
So think about that when you think or terminations and lay offs. The govt leaves the average employee to come up with a lawyer to fight for their 2 years severance rather than legislate for all but the most grievous employee dismissals.
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What does paying of debt and lowering taxes have to do with anything?
For starters it would let those with poor credit and impoverished conditions come out of debt and be self-sufficient faster.
But it mixed market economies like ours, the government has huge incentives (for itself) to keep people poor and dependent one them, rather than having them be prosperous and self-sufficient
Sure thing, as long as your reasoning is akin to:
“Basketball sucks because Tall people have a major advantage”
We have no other reason to communicate.
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