m0xEE @m0xee@librem.one

@charlie_root
Although you expect the filesystem itself to handle this, it does not and it might depend on software 😂
Windows can sure be counterintuitive!

@charlie_root In Windows "date created" and "date modified" are also separate attributes — you can make the corresponding columns visible in Explorer. In theory it even supports "date accessed" — so-called atime, but I'm not sure all versions of NTFS support that.
And yes, I have just checked — extracting a file from an archive using Explorer alters its modification time 🤷

@iska @theorytoe
I might not agree with the criticism in the linked article, but describing the one who created D programming language, a C++ compiler and a C compiler before that as "someone who rarely has primary experience writing C" just feels wrong!

@kingu
s/won't come/won't be coming/ that would probably be more correct 🤔

@unspeaker @tiredhorizon
It's probably somewhere under gconf… or dconf… of gsettings, or — whatever new thing they have that apes Windows registry 😆
There is also xdg-mime that you can use to manage file type associations, but again — I'm not sure GNOME considers its DB a priority or relies on something else these days.

@kingu
Except in 3D-world zombies won't come from only one direction 🧟‍♀️😱🧟‍♂️

@newt
I'm security conscious 😜
I hand-pick even the fonts. If the system can keep working without it, why have it? Some of my machines don't have fuser/lsof or who or netstat… Having Qt is akin to having a behemoth like LibreOffice installed on a machine where I don't use it.
I don't insist on everyone being like that, but it's one more reason why Qt isn't for me, its modularity needs more work.
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
I agree — in some parts it's broken ugly piece of shit, but it's not our topic really, is it? It would be like that in any language.
snac2 is popular due to its small footprint, that is thanks to C. Sway is… well, popular, and it's a relatively young project in C. Lagrange is very niche, but in its niche it's insanely popular — can't say that it's due to it being in C, more thanks to effort put into it by its developer.

@condret @captainepoch

@newt
I see new Qt software every now and then — it's hard to not notice that things have improved, computers got more performant so having GUI toolkit in C++ became acceptable, but it's still not something worth installing 200 packages named "qt-kitchen-sink" and KDE… It's something I knew I would never use, it feels wrong to me in every possible way.

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
Gnome wasn't "slow and bugged" — especially compared to Qt-based KDE of the time. This was my point!
I don't even know what full GNOME experience is nowadays, but what I have learned from that time is to never touch anything Qt — even with a five-hundred-metre pole!

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but was it me or was it someone nicknamed Newt, who mentioned a comment from… 2001 even (!) in the opening post? 🤔

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
We're on Fedi and snac2, thanks to its small footprint, grows pretty damn popular around these parts.
Lagrange is in C, Sway is in C… Hobby-projects — sure, but they are well beyond "hello world" level. New projects of what scale do you expect to find as examples? Linux kernel is that big precisely because it's not that young.

Oh my, I'm playing devil's advocate for C, what am I doing! 😱

@condret @captainepoch

@mischievoustomato
I have to admit that it got much less so with years, and by the low standards we have today its requirements might seem modest.
But as 2002 was mentioned in the opening post, I think it's worth noting that at the time Qt was extremely bloated, slow and… just abominable! Athena widget set didn't seem that ugly in comparison.

@adiz @newt @prettygood

@newt
Unlike you I have like 7 machines and none of them have Qt or anything depending on it. This one, among other things, has Windows — it's a guilty pleasure of mine. I usually don't even show it to anyone, but you're special.
For you on the other hand Qt is like… Drug of choice. Switching to Windows as replacement therapy? 🤔 No, not good, I won't recommend it!

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
Oh, man, don't! I know you can relate — you're relying on Qt daily!
I hope you can get off this shit before it kills you 😏

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@charlie_root
Ha-ha-ha! I think it "enhances" the overall "using Windows" experience. I only use light colour scheme on this Windows machine and, although I can't say I only did it for this screenshot, but I was messing with Bloat's CSS right before taking this screenshot 🤣

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @newt @adiz

@moth_ball
You're probably right! But somehow, unlike the supporting cast, I was never finding the main heroine appealing — not enough to justify all the hype and not enough to delve into it myself. Knowing (more or less) what the plot is about, I would probably like her, but visually — no, maybe I'm just prejudiced against the elves 😬

@kaia @solidsanek

@newt @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz
People using Windows?! Oh, come on! Stop making shit up! 😏