@prettygood @mischievoustomato @adiz sorry, but anything based on GTK is just horrible. Literally the worst toolkit possible, starting with GTK3.

@newt
This might even sound reasonable were we not comparing it to Qt — Qt for fuck's sake! The single most disgusting thing in two universes.
Which in 2002 was more bloated than the web BTW — QML is the grandfather of modern web debauchery. The only good thing about it is that it contains a wide range of ready to use components — that's what they did with GTK4, so now development dependencies drag even GStreamer in, but somehow you don't like it.
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz Qt is very nice. Probably the best tool for UI development we currently have.

You too are wrong, therefore.

@newt
> Probably the best tool for UI development we currently have
When a developer tells me: "I use Qt because it's the easiest way to make my software cross-platform",— I think… Okay, you've given up on the way your software looks and feels and took the easy way out. Other options require lots of effort, it's not for everyone. It's somewhat acceptable, but when I see something like this from the user's perspective:

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@newt
> Qt is very nice
No! Just no! It's a steaming disgusting pile of crap!

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz how do you guys do this? I haven't seen a single objectively correct opinion in this thread other than my own.

@newt
One of the signs you might be a conspiracy-theorist 😏

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz I am, because conspiracies are real. But nevertheless, Qt is quite fine.

Also, mind you, I never ever mentioned cross-platform stuff here. I use Qt only for Linux (maybe BSD) and don't really care about non-X11 systems.

@newt
> I use Qt only for Linux (maybe BSD) and don't really care about non-X11 systems.
Well, we also have a room full of people right here who use GTK in Linux and are perfectly fine with it, so…
What should the punchline be? "Works for me 🤷"?
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz there are even more people who use Windows. They too are wrong.

@newt @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz
People using Windows?! Oh, come on! Stop making shit up! 😏

@m0xee @mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz man, you clearly hate yourself enough to suffer through this. My condolences.

@newt
Oh, man, don't! I know you can relate — you're relying on Qt daily!
I hope you can get off this shit before it kills you 😏

@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz