@useless_idiot
Makes sense! US society looks extremely polarized, many are disappointed in the political system and I won't be surprised if Kremlin had a hand in this too or at least seized the moment and exploited it well.
@bquirky @amerika

@m0xee @bquirky @amerika

They might have a hand in it. The more mercantile and/or washed up journalists might be bribed.

In my pinned posts is an interview with an ex-KGB officer about their methods.

@useless_idiot @m0xee @bquirky

We are all James Jesus Angleton now.

"Is he telling me what they are doing, or what they want me to think they are doing?"

@amerika @m0xee @bquirky

You mean we all get paranoid and don't know who/what to believe anymore?

My solution to that is to believe my own experience, and the experiences of those I meet in person.

@useless_idiot @m0xee @bquirky

Well, you _did_ mention the KGB...

I trust logic and to some degree, the big points of history.

I do not trust the manipulators.

Have you seen "Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy" and "The Assets"? Worth it for understanding the KGB.

@amerika @m0xee @bquirky

I might take a look at them. Thank you!

@useless_idiot Oh, I'm aware of their methods like no other😅
Russian investigative journos have even found some documents indicating Prigozhin's companies were preparing training camps in Africa for black guys to provoke the crowd during BLM protests.
The intent was definitely there, but proof that it had any effect is yet to be found. I'm never doubting their will to use underhanded tactics, but always question their competence.
@bquirky @amerika

@m0xee @bquirky @amerika

The spirit is willing but the logistics are weak.

@useless_idiot In Russia the regime is evil, but at least it's rotten to the core.
This makes China all the way more dangerous. They do have a degree of corruption and often do weird shit to their own that can hardly be called effective and good for the society, but they are still pretty good at that and definitely way more subtle.
@bquirky @amerika

@m0xee @bquirky @amerika

Agreed.

@useless_idiot @m0xee @bquirky

China kept evolving instead of collapsing and made Communism into a mixed economy like the ones we have in the West, while retaining direct control of their lives of their citizens. A scary regime, and a subtle one.

In China the regime is evil, but at least it's rotten to the core.
This makes America all the way more dangerous. They do have a degree of corruption and often do weird shit to their own that can hardly be called effective and good for the society, but they are still pretty good at that and definitely way more subtle.

@dew_the_dew @amerika @bquirky @m0xee

And that is a great example of disappointment and demoralization!

how so

@dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot @m0xee

The subverters invert your approach toward strength. This makes people fixate on the weak, sad, and doomed.

In other news, all non-monarchist systems seem to be converging, such that the difference between neoliberalism, communism, social democracy, and national socialism is now very small.

it's almost like it's some kind of global government thing

@dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot @m0xee

Democracy seems to end only one way.

@amerika @dew_the_dew @bquirky @m0xee

I have been giving the aristocracy perspective a lot of thought, as there were many lies in the French Revolution narrative.

But I am not convinced that in a post-Christian society an aristocracy would work better than a form of democracy.

(I live in a parliamentary constitutional monarchy, it's messy. But that's probably not what you mean.)

@amerika @m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky
@useless_idiot> aristocracy would work better than democracy?

After reading about Alexandr Dugan's philosophy taking root in European conservatives I got curious.

I was curious how would appeal to American conservatives, since we identify with many slavic family values.

His "Fourth Political Theory" will replace communism, fascism, and capitalism with a strong dictator (Czar), church imposed social rules, no civil rights or democracy.

Sound familiar? 🤣

@DotardTed @m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot

Parliamentary monarchies have the same troubles as any other parliamentary system.

Dugin seems to be describing National Socialism in a new form. This has no relation to what I speak of here.

* We do not want to replace capitalism; nothing else functions as well.
* Strong dictator: monarchy is a better idea since it has enduring accountability
* Theocracy: please no
* No civil rights: good
* No democracy: good!

@amerika @m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot

You don't have to look too hard to see the society he is modeling it on... He's trying to become a new Rasputin?

@DotardTed @m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot

In all seriousness, yes, sort of. His philosophy is a general argument for Eurasian domination.

@m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot
@amerika> Eurasian domination

BINGO! On the money.

“Russkiy Mir” all the way!

@DotardTed @m0xee @dew_the_dew @bquirky @useless_idiot

I think he took it from Guillaume Faye, I think, who wanted a Eurasian empire stretching from Ireland to Siberia.

I suggested he leave off the first part.

@useless_idiot @dew_the_dew @bquirky @m0xee

In my view, humanity is always going to have some kind of religion. It is simply goind to be more folkloric and abstract in the future.

Aristocracy works better because it can make unpopular decisions, as anything long-term or realistic will be.

@m0xee @useless_idiot @bquirky

The Communists spent years using diversity to divide us, only to find out that diversity is inherently divisive (cf Northern Ireland, Kosovo).

@useless_idiot @m0xee @bquirky

The big question is whether we can separate China and Russia, or really any of the BRICS, from each other at this point.

I like Modi but if he gets moved aside, India may join the others.

@amerika
>the Right imitates the Left because the Left is simpler and so has been winning for centuries
I'm not in the US so I can only base my opinion on what I read/watch, but I had a gut feeling it's like that. And I'm kind of left-leaning myself, but it's not about who's right who's wrong at all. It's about this primitive name-calling that had been successfully exploited by the left — now I see this on both sides. The level of political dialogue is in its low point😩
@useless_idiot @bquirky

@m0xee @useless_idiot @bquirky

Until the Right connects with its actual self, it will not offer enough of an option to the status quo, therefore we are going to get more focus on symbolic issues instead of substantive ones.

Flag burning, abortion, special interests... these will dominate.