Elias @eliasr@librem.one

@be

Insist on keeping things separate when they can be separate. Like, if you want to do something that requires changes A and B, then keep A and B separate and explain why A is a good change by itself. Then when A is done, move on to B.

I think this is better even if it might at first sight seem as a "longer path" to where you want to go. Trying to merge the combination A+B directly as a single change would risk more disagreements, even if that (A+B) may be where you are going in the end.

That's the spirit! Let's keep moving forward.

@eastcoastweb

What? The "land of the free"?
Whoever told you that is your enemy

https://social.librem.one/@eliasr/106009265545338913

@redstarfish

Das Leben der Anderen

@trregeagle

> We all need to get our shit together

True. I'm trying to do better myself.

A good thing is that with each new conversation, there is a new chance to be respectful. With a better tone from the start there is a better chance of getting a more reasonable response from "the other side" as well.

@mntmn

I liked this recording, it's Bradley M. Kuhn talking about FOSS, from 2004:
http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/bradley_kuhn-swfreedom_and_gnu_generation-apr04.ogg

From the collection here: http://audio-video.gnu.org/audio/

@redstarfish

True, it's a bit something, what to call it, "not nice" to tell people what to do like that.

But there is still a point in letting them know that people like you exist, that there are people who would like to make a bug report but who are reluctant to do it because it requires using Github.

I think many people think Github is all that exists, that everyone is using Github and that there is no problem with that. (Which of course is exactly the attitude Microsoft wants to see.)

@redstarfish

How about filing a Github issue called "please move away from Github to a more freedom-respecting solution" or similar?

I have a Github account (shameful, I know) so I could do it.

@trregeagle

That thinking comes from good intentions but it has in many cases gone too far, to the point where all that matters is who you are, you no longer need to present a solid argument based on good facts and logic, or at least that is less important compared to who you are.

This has led to people just following their group without thinking critically --> cancel culture etc.

I do sympathize with the “progressive activists” but they need to get their shit together in this regard.

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@trregeagle Interesting. I think the “progressive activists” have ended up in that not so good situation as a result of the
“they seek to correct the historic marginalization of groups" thing. While that is an admirable goal, it has lead to the idea that when someone says something, the most important thing is not what was said but who said it. The idea is that we should listen to people who belong to marginalized groups, only they can properly understand and describe their own experiences.

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@eastcoastweb

I will gladly live without addons if that saves me from Chrome/Chromium.

@eastcoastweb

I'm using Firefox so far.

Noooooo, never Chromium. Over my dead body. 🙂

What about GNOME Web, could that be an option in the future?

https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Web/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNOME_Web

@eastcoastweb

I use DuckDuckGo for the moment but in principle I would like to switch to something that does its own indexing, I know https://www.mojeek.com/ is one such option, probably there are others.

I think both DuckDuckGo and StartPage rely on "the big ones" like Google to fetch the results from. So Google&co can decide to hide some things by simply removing those search results. In principle I would like to be able to search without any big tech company restricting what I can find.

@FediFollows

Sure it's a small company, but for comparison it seems like Purism has been sending Librem 5 phones to lots of places around the world including Australia. Purism is also a small company, they have lots of difficulties with delays, but still it seems they can deliver to most countries. There can be extra costs for customs and/or taxes depending on the country, but it's not impossible. So I'm wondering why the same is not possible for FairPhone.
@Horizon_Innovations @Fairphone

@Horizon_Innovations @FediFollows @Fairphone
But why would it not be possible to buy a FairPhone in Australia? Seems ridiculous, it must be possible to get around that?

@clacke Could it be something related to different shells being used, like in one case you have bash and in the other case some other shell, maybe they handle things like parentheses and quotation marks differently?

@koherecoWatchdog @strypey

Great idea!

I think there is a strong case to be made that it is fundamentally wrong to force people to use Google/Apple and at the same time EU politicians have shown some understanding of the problems with big tech companies having too much power.

I've been trying to argue locally here in Sweden, but it could be that doing something at the EU level has a better chance.

The #FSFE should help, but I'm worried they won't since they get so much money from Google.

This is a good video by Luke Smith: "Social Media as Social Control."

https://videos.lukesmith.xyz/videos/watch/5e0eeac4-2b38-450c-aad6-eb601087686e

"Whether planned or not, Social Media's prime current function is behavioral engineering at a massive scale. Most sites function as massive Skinner's Boxes, conditioning users to behaviors desired by those who run the sites. Part of this is inevitable, but it has certainly accelerated in recent years and will continue so long as people continue to rely on such sites."

The video is 15 minutes long.

@metnix

NaCl ?