Elias @eliasr@librem.one
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Human being. Programmer, sailor, researcher, teacher, student, parent, child, etc. Free/libre and open-source software (FOSS/FLOSS) enthusiast. Likes human rights, including digital rights such as privacy of communication. Casual hacker. On Mastodon since about 2020. Lives in Stockholm. He/him. No DMs.
Joined Jun 2020
Debian Votes to Issue No Statement on Stallman's Return to the FSF Board
Details about the vote: https://www.debian.org/vote/2021/vote_002
@MatejLach Sounds a bit like one of those things where computer users are assumed to be both uninterested and fundamentally incapable of understanding anything about the technology they are using.
In my opinion it's a bad development, we should instead work towards more understanding of technology, empowering people to decide which tech they use and how.
If we assume people are stupid (I don't think that), then things like #freesoftware become meaningless as people can't tell the difference.
@lionirdeadman@fosstodon.org
> spreading lies
Now that is a serious accusation you are making, please explain what you mean.
In my opinion, spreading lies is a very bad thing to do, if I had done that I would take it back and apologize.
The people who signed the "open letter" (that you defended) appear to think otherwise. The letter does in fact spread falsehoods, as I explained to you earlier. I have not yet seen anyone apologizing for signing that.
See also this: https://edsantos.eu/on-stalman/
@shiba I agree that the letter was very unfortunate, to put it mildly.
What I'm wondering now is what to do now, in the situation we have. All those people (and organizations!) did sign that, and now I need to communicate with them after that.
My thought regarding the CoC in this case was that, by looking at things from that point of view, that could be a way of making the people who signed the letter reflect on what they have done.
What do you think? What should we do now?
The GNOME Code of Conduct says: Be friendly. Be empathetic. Be respectful.
The GNOME Foundation signed an "open letter" accusing a software freedom activist of being "misogynist, ableist, and transphobic".
Questions:
(1) Is the letter in line with the GNOME Code of Conduct?
(2) Is it okay for the GNOME Foundation, as an organization, to sign something like that?
Personally I lean towards "no" on both questions, but I would like to hear what you think, especially GNOME developers.
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@trregeagle Wohoo, congratulations!
Prepare yourself for some tinkering. 🙂
I found the forum at https://forums.puri.sm/ very helpful.
@jonarvid Yes, they certainly do take their time with the shipping.
Look on the bright side, though: by the time you get it, there's a good chance these fixes have been upstreamed so MMS can work for you out of the box. 😉
@clacke If you have time, I would be interested to hear what you think about those things (see also above):
- The GNOME Foundation signing the "open letter" as a whole organization, given how it is phrased and how it references inaccurate sources in the appendix.
- The GNOME Foundation signing something that would have been a clear violation of the GNOME code of conduct if posted in their own space.
For me it's hard to understand how they could do that, I really wonder what is behind it.
> pro-virus stance?
Not sure, but maybe @anonymoose is hinting at that some people (not me!) call copyleft licenses "viral" because they tend to spread. 🙂
Also, since you mentioned the GNOME Code of Conduct, the "open letter" itself would be a violation of that code of conduct if it had been posted in GNOME community spaces.
The code of conduct says, for example: Be friendly, Be empathetic, Be respectful. The open letter is very far from that.
While I understand that the GNOME Foundation can say the open letter is on Github and thus outside of GNOME community spaces so the code does not apply, to me it still seems inappropriate.
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I don't mean that they voice their opinion that RMS behavior is a problem, that is not strange.
What I mean is strange is that the GNOME Foundation does it through that "open letter" given how it is phrased and how it references inaccurate sources in the appendix. I saw you wrote about that earlier so I think you understand what I mean. Otherwise see how the problems with the open letter are explained here: https://edsantos.eu/on-stalman/
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free software pol
OK then, thanks for explaining.
@fribbledom So someone decided to no longer give credit to #GNU, and they do that change without explaining in the commit message what the change actually is. The commit message should say "remove GNU" since that is what the commit is doing.
Apparently they don't want the commit message to show what they are actually doing.
Is that supposed to be funny?
Elias
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FSF India Board Statement https://fsf.org.in/news/board-statement-2021
This is an excellent statement from the FSF India about the current #RMS controversy:
https://fsf.org.in/news/board-statement-2021/
"Unfortunately many of the arguments made against him were based on misunderstanding and half truths. More dangerous is concerted attack on RMS vilifying him and trying to isolate him. FSF India condemns this action. There is no freedom more important than freedom of thought and expression."
To understand the background, see for example this: https://edsantos.eu/on-stalman/
> those mobs /do/ exist!
> This totally isn't one of them, though
Excuse me but if you think that, then I really think you should read and think some more about it. I recommend reading this: https://edsantos.eu/on-stalman/
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John Lennon, Working Class Hero
- My web page
- https://eliasrudberg.se/
Human being. Programmer, sailor, researcher, teacher, student, parent, child, etc. Free/libre and open-source software (FOSS/FLOSS) enthusiast. Likes human rights, including digital rights such as privacy of communication. Casual hacker. On Mastodon since about 2020. Lives in Stockholm. He/him. No DMs.
Joined Jun 2020
