@zacchiro I get the feeling, but I think that's unfair the decades of work Mozilla has already put in to keeping the browser ecosystem more focused on users. Mozilla is a problematic organization for sure, but it is also the only major force in the browser ecosystem with some kind of focus on putting users first. What else is there?
@hyakinthos @zacchiro I'd say we should judge them based on their decades long track record rather than details of the manifesto. Plus is there any organization or approach that can realistically replace #Mozilla?
@eighthave
The manifesto update was inspired by their track record of making anti-user decisions. It speaks volumes that they hesitate to amend the manifesto with a simple no-brainer clause for user focus.
Under the current shitty state of affairs, the “replacement” would likely be a Mozilla fork by a user-focused org. Perhaps Tor Browser, but I’m not deeply aware of all the forks.
@zacchiro
@eighthave
You should really read this:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1922624
That bug report is a trivial no-brainer that calls on #Mozilla to simply state that users should be put first, exactly as you are advocating. And they are struggling with that.
@zacchiro