@terryenglish

Raising taxes should be more of an employer thing than a state thing IMO.

@nerdman I'm sure you meant to say "wages" and not taxes. That's because you're on the side of management not the workers.

@terryenglish

Management is the side that pays me. This puts me on their side. When workers become management I'll still be on the side of management. See how this works?

@nerdman I will agree that workers ought to be not only management but the owners as well. Then the owners and management will have me on their side.

@terryenglish

This will never happen. What would happen is SOME of the workers would move to the ownership position and become the defacto owners.

Have you not seen what happens in socialist societies where collectivization happens?

@terryenglish "It should be noted that prior to the Civil War, the large majority of Americans were not slaves, indentured servants, nor employees of other people. As Abraham Lincoln noted in his address to the Wisconsin State Agricultural Society:

aproposofnothing.substack.com/

@terryenglish “a large majority” of the population “neither work for others, nor have others working for them. Even in all our slave States, except South Carolina, a majority of the whole people of all colors, are neither slaves nor masters. In these Free States, a large majority are neither hirers or hired. Men, with their families -- wives, sons and daughters -- work for themselves, on their farms, in their houses and in their shops, taking the whole product to themselves”

@js290 @terryenglish I remember a Jefferson quote about how the system of American republic they built fundamentally only worked for a nation of primarily agrarian land-owning homesteaders.

@Eris @terryenglish "But I guess those mega-farms in [America] would need some machinery, at least for harvesting. In the future, though, as more and more people move back to the country and begin to grow their own food on small plots of land, there'll be much less dependence on machines and fossil fuels . . . and natural farming techniques can begin to be used." motherearthnews.com/nature-and

@terryenglish Good, banning teenagers from working is retarded and makes them into manchildren when they grow up.
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