@GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com Communists = Blame all problems on capitalists
Capitalists = blame all problems on communists
le shrug
@cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @Grandtheftautism @TheMadPirate @thebitchisback
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I propose a world segregated by communists and capitalists. Communists on capitalists countries ate deported to the commie part. Capitalists on communist countries are deported to the capitalist part.
No humanitarian aid or "trade" between the two. Treason is paid with death.
If commies starve to death, so be it.
If capitalists pollute, so be it.
Those are my proposals.
Live and let live.
@TheMadPirate Or we could just move past both antiquated paradigms and try something new. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
What's the intermediate point between Individualism and Collectivism ?
@TheMadPirate In regards to what? @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
@TheMadPirate Is there one? @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
The question whether the self exists as an individual independent being or if it exists as a dependent of the collective.
@TheMadPirate Well in that case I would have to say that there is no point because it's both simultaneously. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
How so?.
How can someone put self interest above collective interest AND collective interest above self interest AT THE SAME TIME?
@TheMadPirate Now you've veered into another area entirely. It's not that simple. That's like saying you can either be a sociopath or selfless saint. When it comes to interest as opposed to existence most people try to do their best to go through life existing in a larger society of individuals like them trying to do the best they can when they can for themselves and others. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
Or better said, how can you work to earn the money for your own survival and let all your money be taken away from you to feed strangers at the same time?
@TheMadPirate You're the only person I've ever seen talk about feeding hungry people as a bad thing. The fact is we human beings need one another. I want to live in a society where people care about the welfare of one another. If you don't want to live in a society you can always go rely on your rugged individualism in the savage wilderness. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
And just taking an example from art.
In the 1980s movie "The Gods Must Be Crazy", the collectivist tribe ends up rejecting the introduction of a technological device as "evil" because they found it too disruptive for their collectivist social structure. Why?. Because the advantages given by the device increased their independence from tribal support, since different tribesmen gained different advantages from different uses of the same device.
In other words, Collectivism implies the sacrifice of technological advancement ( that always increases independence from group support) to maintain group conformity.
@TheMadPirate @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback Was it you that @mewmew refused to argue with because he felt you argued in bad faith?
I have the socialist cat aka @mewmew blocked in this account, I do have him unblocked in the KF.cc account.
If you call standing up my conservative libertarian principles instead of being a cuckold backstabbing Centrist (TM) arguing "in bad faith", then yeah, that's what I do
@TheMadPirate It was funny to see him exasperated by your debate style. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @mewmew @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback I use a mixed debate style. Similar to Nick Fuentes debate style.
@TheMadPirate You do have a mixed debate style. Baffle with bullshit, barrage with non-sequiturs, and change topics constantly . Very effective. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @mewmew @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
@TheMadPirate Well an actual debate might be considered a bloodsport. I dunno what you're doing qualifies though. @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @mewmew @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback @nerdman
Fediverse is not compatible with debates because debates have rules.
What we have in fediverse instead of those is called hellthreads.
@nerdman @terryenglish @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @thebitchisback I think Bloodsports are cool. I like the idea of pitting wit against wit. I gives you an idea of the rhetorical/language acumen of someone. That’s why a debate from someone like Nick Fuentes is far more entertaining than from Carl Benjamin or Destiny.
Debates are mostly boring to be fair. I prefer conversations. More natural, less formal. Even Jordan Peterson can sound entertaining in one of those:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axSWghcYdCA
I remember Peterson's conversation with Cathy Newman.
That was entertaining AF.
I tend to
at most things but this argument still makes me sad because heartless bitches like this deny women the choice of their job The only gap is the one where her brain ought to be, women just don't perform high paying jobs, that's their doing their choice their will
You can't deny someone their own fucking will even if it isn't good
And you can tell how utterly fucking political it is because they never talk about normal jobs, they always go for CEOs and positions of power never normal jobs
youtu.be/bb_Go99mkFw
@TheMadPirate @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @terryenglish @thebitchisback
I know how to solve that.
All you have to do is ask "But what about Red Lobster?" And voila! Everything solves itself.
I know how to solve that.
All you have to do is ask "But what about Red Lobster?" And voila! Everything solves itself.
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback @nerdman Those are just my personal rules. You can use whatever strategy you want. That’s the beauty of free style debates.
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback A simple rule is this: Answer well constructed arguments with well constructed arguments. Answer fallacies with fallacies. Because there is no reason trying to counter fallacies with well constructed arguments, since the person engaging in a fallacy has no interest in sticking to the principles of Analytical Philosophy.
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback Another simple rule is: Every time your opponent engages in a fallacy, take the opportunity to enrage and troll him/her, since an enraged opponent loses his/her mental focus, which is an advantage to you.
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback Another simple rule: Never let your opponent use “snuck premises”. Counter those as quickly as you can.
@terryenglish @cyber-hellscape @mewmew @GBCDude @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback Another simple rule: Never let your opponent use “snuck premises”. Counter those as quickly as you can.
@TheMadPirate Whatever you say guy. 😉 @cyber-hellscape@blob.cat @mewmew @GBCDude@freespeechextremist.com @Grandtheftautism @thebitchisback
Like MMA but with shitposting.