@linmob @purism I can live without optimized calendar but can hardly use the phone if it doesn't hold at least 2 days idle or one day of average usage.

@ruff @purism I am not arguing against that. But they have software on that list, that is a relatively solved problem.

Also, minor nitpick, because it's not that easy to really define this: What is average use?

@linmob @purism Mileage can vary but for me it's couple of calls a day, and occasional chat on the messenger (~msg/hour). Maybe open one url a day.

@linmob @purism As for relatively solved - it still needs attention (resource allocation) if it's not yet in the upstream repo. If there's no interest in _almost ready_ app then why spreading resourcing to finish it, better focus on things with higher demand

@ruff @purism PureMaps is on Flathub, Purism said a while back they were going to use Flatpak for their mobile app store. Sure, there may be small adjustments needed. Just putting a bunch of icons and a bit of text (including a ton of proprietary services) on a page and having people pick them without further information is quite lame. It almost makes one hope that Purism allocate the resources as they see fit, and do not honour what backers choose, because they should have this information.

@linmob @purism well, with my backer hat on I do not see the reason for the rant. I backed a phone. with mainline linux stack. Apps is slightly different matter. What does look slightly off to me is that now they're asking to back finishing the phone (battery/standby) versus backing the apps (which is added service). But again, understanding resource limit and unlimited expectations from the backers - I understand and accept that.

@ruff @purism Look, I backed the phone (in 2017), I even backed #fundyourapps too. I don't mean to rant. It's just that – maintaining an apps list (https://linmobapps.frama.io) for these mobile Linux operating systems I've got an idea about what works and what doesn't and try (the list is not perfect, I know) to make that information available. I think I am just frustrated that they don't reflect the current status in the campaign, given that they should know it pretty well too.

@linmob @purism Got it, kind of blaming them in NiH syndrome - for refusing to accept the fact that someone has already done research for them. While I agree with that in general, there's is power efficiency thingy which also needs attention (app should understand when to sleep and how to wake properly). I don't know whether they mean exactly this by that #fundyourapp campaign (that probably falls into your "without further information" category)

@ruff I don't understand your first sentence, sorry.

FWIW, I don't blame them for "not invented here". Purism did marvelous work already, without their hard work the #PinePhone (which I have since June 9th) software ecosystem would be a lot worse.