m0xEE @m0xee@librem.one

@mangeurdenuage
> one side you are sure that you are protected the other side is just a promise
Oh, worth noting that both sides are a promise. Unless you do all the source code audit and build all the hardware yourself. You tend to trust free software maintainers more than EU MPs and courts, but that's irrelevant, it's still a matter of trust at its core.
@Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network

@Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
I'm afraid bell peppers won't cut it, better get one of those cool melon catapults. Even if you can't kill the elephant, you can feed it!

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @colinsmatt11 @Suiseiseki @pyrate @mangeurdenuage Why don't we appeal to conspiracy theorists instead?
"Did you know that your tinfoil hat is no longer enough?!"
"Nanochips in the vaccine will dissolve if you use Pine Time! And it' only $10000"
It worked with Alex Jones' dick pills, why not? 🤣

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
I know, that is why I used "if". It was just an example of overdoing it instead of doing things gradually.

@r000t Maybe they are referring to Carbon API? The Apple thing. It's deprecated already, but at least it's 10+ years old 🤷

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
Yep, legally it's a mess, but at least, unlike Facebook, it can be classified as "tech".
Companies are usually classified by their main sources of income. Even for MS and Google it's a stretch, but calling Facebook a tech company is just delusional IMO 🤷

@neural_meduza Чемпионат пройдёт в будущем — ещё даже не начался. А два человека уже умерло 😱

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> they give you a temporary revocable authorization of usage of their Services
Oh, I think they are different because they sell hardware 😂
Apple does, so does MS: Xbox and Surface things. For Google this part of their bussiness is near negligent, but they still have it. There were some talks of "Facebook-phone", but I believe it didn't come to fruition — so pure surveillance there.

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> how do you think they work ?
I think this one just checks if it's run on real hardware, not some virtual environment and makes sure you use unmodified signed binary. It is possible of course, but I'm pretty sure there is no KGB Gulag shit there 😅

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> these rulings aren't effective as people think they are because there's a lot of loopholes in the said text
That is also true! Like I said, there is a lot more to be done. There are things to improve and it is important to prevent some government surveillance stuff from passing at the same time.

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> they don't provide real direct protection
That's true! So both are important. My point was that not using proprietary solutions on its own is ineffective. You've got to have some alternative that's actually usable. And of course you've got to keep "tech" companies in line. Why do they even call them tech companies? Apple and MS at least sell tech, Google — to some extent. Facebook doesn't sell any tech, it sells your data, it's a surveillance company.

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
> "why should I stop doing drugs if they're so fun"
You know you don't usually quit drugs by going to the gym, right? That is exactly my point — do things gradually. You may even die if you stop doing hard drugs without replacement therapy.
And you don't define yourself by not doing something, you have to find something new to do in your leisure time, otherwise you might relapse.
Doing something better is the way to go, "not doing" doesn't change shit!

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
> there's going to be 2 seed-throwing people instead of one
No, there won't be. Because by excluding yourself you are just weirding people out. If someone is dissatisfied with Google and you tell him to port PmOS to his phone and self-host his mail he will tell you to go to hell. But if you show him/her AOSP or Fairphone and Protonmail it might work. These companies might become evil, but today they are better alternatives and require little effort to switch.

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> It's already the case in some countries but:
That is right. It wasn't "Not using" that made MS remove IE in EU edition of Windows. And we have these nice "Reject all" buttons on nearly every website not because we were "not using". Firefox didn't appear out of thin air of "not using". Of course a lot more has to be done, but not having fun playing some game because it has some fscked up "anti-cheat" measures is not it.

@mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki @iska@mstdn.starnix.network
> Yeah because obviously continuing using proprietary software to not look paranoid worked so well on the population
Guess what? Not using it didn't work either! You know what actually made a difference? Making better alternatives available and informing people. "Not using" doesn't change anything at all, it only excludes you and diverts your attention from bigger picture to micromanaging your life without these things.

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network Look, I'm not replying, but posting myself. And I'm posting cats!
Like a normal normie on a normal road! Hope this helps restore my image 🤪

https://social.librem.one/@m0xee/108696250305099715

I saved this for a special occasion that is today!
My cats were play fighting and one of them scratched the other on the back of the head, so he had to wear this Elizabethan collar for the wound to heal.
When my mom saw this photo, she told me he looks like a spaceman and I immediately realized what "spaceman" we are talking here…
#caturday #cats #starcraft

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki Fedi is a bunch of weirdos! 🤣
Not that it's bad…
>being such a reply guy - who barely posts himself
That's not weird, that is idiosyncratic!

@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @mangeurdenuage @Suiseiseki
> Besides, just saying no makes a difference.
No, it doesn't. There is an extremely slim chance that you'll kill an elephant throwing corn seeds at it, but that is not what you usually do if you want to succeed. Issue can't be fixed on personal level, you have to do more than that. Make your own company that respects privacy and make your products successful, become an activist and get privacy law passed. Excluding yourself by not playing games won't do shit.

@9S @volpeon Those are Telegram's contacts, not your phone directory. You can deny the app access to your phone's contacts, never sync them and only add the ones you actually want. I did this and my Telegram has like four contacts or something like that.
Telegram shouldn't be trusted still, but at least this is avoidable.