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— Honey, I've got promoted today!
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— …to customer.
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@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @inference @iska@mstdn.starnix.network You can always resort to hardware firewall in case of emergency!
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network So can my cheap $200 Chinese phone. Ubuntu touch too.
Sailfish is also far from perfect and it uses Qt, which I personally don't like, but most are fine with it. It definitely has more software than UbuntuTouch though
My perfect device would run something like Void with something sway or dwm based on top of it, like SWMO/SXMO.
No such device exists, but a man can dream…
Firefox will still be bad with touch input though 😂
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook US is still "slightly" better though. I'd better go to the US gulag than the Chinese one 🤣
I think it started to matter after those rumours that Supermicro servers had backdoors at NIC level. I don't know if it's true, probably bullshit, but supply chain might matter to some 🤷
I'm fine with the fact that we have it. More choice — good for the market.
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network PinePhone Pro is newer, so yes, it is.
>Pro¹ X
Looks nice spec-wise. UbuntuTouch is a mess though. It still uses Ubuntu 16.04 as base — too old. They are migrating to 18.10 now AFAIK, but it's not there yet. They are even thinking about 20.04.
Anyway if it runs UT without Android compatibility layer, you can run something like Mobian or PostmarketOS on it. Good!
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook Oh, and of course the hardware RFkill switches. That too!
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook Librem5 is not about free software only, but also about secure supply chain — that's its main selling point, hence the price. They've even had a version that's assembled in the US, maybe they still have.
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network Like what? Both, Librem5 and PinePhone Pro are a bit underpowered to say the least. Even compared to modern midrange phones that come with Android. Is there anything else out there?
@cyberspook @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network It was. Then they've renamed it to Firefox Mobile and this Fennec we have now is a fork: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.mozilla.fennec_fdroid/
@lunarised @iska@mstdn.starnix.network He's probably bad at what he does, but I don't really know anything about him so I just made a stupid joke, sorry 😅
@lunarised @iska@mstdn.starnix.network If he knows how to destroy a computer, he's fine. Probably the most effective tactic anyway.
@daksh I still think it's disturbing. A lot of people, especialy non-tech-savvy ones, don't even think how this information is handled, what kind of information gets sent with crash reports. And if they knew, they'd be concerned.
Free software often lets you view what is sent and explicitly approve it, non-free software more often doesn't.
So it is still privacy violating in a way, but yes, it is out of scope of your question.
@lebronjames75 I'd like to follow this advice and interact with grass, but I don't like touch input. Can I mouse grass instead, or, preferably, use keyboard only?
@inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @cyberspook @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @dushman Insightful! At least now I know what this is about.
Still, I prefer to stay away from anything by Google. Not because I'm some FOSS-zealot, I just don't like them and don't trust them. I can't even take things that are not obviously evil like WebPee and VP9, sorry.
Still, thanks for the info, that was interesting.
@iska@mstdn.starnix.network @inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @cyberspook @dushman What's the point in sandboxing if hardware has more holes than Swiss cheese? Sandboxing looks good on paper, but with all this Spectre/Meltdown shit, Apple has this Heartbleed thing… To me it's just a waste of resources security-wise.
@inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @cyberspook @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @dushman But Graphene only supports Google phones, does it not?
Trusting Google with hardware and not trusting with software is a little weird 🤷
@dushman @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @iska@mstdn.starnix.network @cyberspook I use something called Fennec which is basically Firefox Mobile with telemetry removed I think. And it is just fine for browsing Twitter. Via Nitter 😂
It might have inferior performance, but phones are so powerful nowadays that the difference is barely noticeable.
@cyberspook @inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network Well it's an old phone. And it still works. Should I just put it in the garbage bin because it's old? 🤔
And it didn't come with PostmarketOS in the first place, it had Windows 10 Mobile on it.
@cyberspook @inference @safiuddinkhan@fosstodon.org @dushman @iska@mstdn.starnix.network That's until you try using desktop Firefox on a phone. Believe me, it's THAT bad!
I have an old Lumia phone running desktop Windows 11 and Firefox is rather usable on it, but on e.g. Droidian it's clunky as fsck!
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