@newt
This might even sound reasonable were we not comparing it to Qt — Qt for fuck's sake! The single most disgusting thing in two universes.
Which in 2002 was more bloated than the web BTW — QML is the grandfather of modern web debauchery. The only good thing about it is that it contains a wide range of ready to use components — that's what they did with GTK4, so now development dependencies drag even GStreamer in, but somehow you don't like it.
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz
@newt
It's basically like Delphi or rather C++ Builder, but cross-platform — and in no OS it looks native.
To be fair, I know a couple of commercial applications for Mac OS X using Qt that almost look natively, but A LOT of effort was put into it. In Windows it always looks like an illegal alien, and in Linux it's so ugly that you can scare children with it 😱
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz
@newt
Have you ever seen that? A developer relying on whatever their distro gives them if that is their immediate dependency?
There are reasons for that — testing with different versions, avoiding distro-specific patches…
@newt
And when someone tells you that your software can't be built in Debian with latest version of dependencies and segfaults even when patched to be buildable… Let me guess, you tell them WONTFIX: "Go fuck yourself and use the versions that I use" — congratulations, you've reinvented snaps/flatpaks without wasting any effort on providing the infrastructure 😂
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz
@newt @adiz @prettygood @m0xee i build qt with a patch to disable stem darkening
@m0xee @adiz @newt @prettygood macOS always gets nice support 😭😭😭
@mischievoustomato
Not in 2000s, it wasn't. Relying on Qt as your GUI framework was not the status quo, more like a bold move, but in terms of being cross-platform it was a good choice even at the time.
@adiz @newt @prettygood
@newt
And no matter how they modularise it, to develop with it you still have to build this giant monolith comparable to Firefox and Chrome, and it has an optional component based on the latter.
Man, can anything — anything at all, be worse than this… thing! 🤢
@mischievoustomato @prettygood @adiz