wlo  
fedi is one of the only sources of good online counterculture on the net i've found. what happened to hacker culture. where are the rest of the internet punks. why don't more people care
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wlo  
idk how to convey what i'm angry about. why do so many people look at all of these awful "influences" and "content creators" and not see something so inherently wrong with these terms. are the rest of us nothing more than people to influence, or content consumers? it's so transparently inhuman. the thought that fedi is one of the only human-feeling spaces on the net i've seen makes me wonder how other people cope with this mass alienation.
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wlo  
i'm glad that people here celebrate who they are, what they do, and what they stand for. but at the same time we're all kind of preaching to the choir when we say things like "privacy is dead" or "trans rights are human rights." not many here will disagree, much of it isn't worth repeating to the same crowd at this point.

i think my thought is really a question of "how can we demonstrate these ideals to everyone outside of this immediate scene?" why aren't we doing anything? should we be trying to be noisier in other spaces?
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@wizard But do people in other spaces even want that? It's not like they aren't aware of the fact that people with more obscure opinions do exist, they are just not interested in them. Some people just like to post some lowest common denominator stuff and enjoy that a lot agree with them or strongly disagree and get triggered. Some prefer a non-linear RPG with multiple plot lines, some prefer… Subway Surfers. To each their own.

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wlo  
@m0xee and that's fair, i just think that more people should be aware that we and our ideals exist, i guess. rn this part of the net feels really self contained and small.
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لا آلهة ، لا سادة  

@wizard@xyzzy.link @m0xee@social.librem.one broadcasting has value, but it think its important to focus on building tangible assets that belong to and uplift our community. we ought to look out for each other so we can all thrive. love each other and all that jazz

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nilix  
@xjix @wizard @m0xee I agree - mainstream will ignore our inconvenient ideals so we should focus on structuring our community so it can stand on its own enough to effect positive change.
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m0xEE  

@wizard You mean if someone is interested he should get pointed in the right direction? Yes, that is important.
TBH I was a bit surprised when Trump ban happened or when the more recent Elon Musk purchase of Twitter hit the news that *a lot* of Twitter users didn't even know Fedi existed. Even if they are looking for alternative, they are looking for some other site/app for everyone switch to, not for technology that makes interoperability possible 🤷

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m0xEE  

@wizard If we speak of privacy, I think having companies like New Vector, Proton and Tutanota, Purism and System 76 helps a lot. They both spread awareness and make the privacy-oriented tech more accessible, so when someone thinks: "I'm fed up with Google",— they have choice: should I host my own e-mail server or should I pay for someone trustworthy to do it for me?
Even Google made a lot to make XMPP popular with their (now dead) Google.Talk 😂

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