@LogicalDash@cybre.space But is it worthy of the stop recommendation by @skynebula? Or is it more deserving of a caution note?

There seems to be a lot people looking for @purism to stumble, whether due to their no censorship stance, their advertising, or ???

@lwriemen @LogicalDash @skynebula @purism You're looking for a conspiracy where there's most probably none. As far as I'm concerned, Purism has had a great track record until they launched Librem One. I thought they were a hardware company, so this move was unexpected, and for me entirely unwarranted.

Then they took a public neutral stance on hate speech on their instance, which started to be worrying because Mastodon was founded in large part against hate speech.

Then there's that. As a corporation, they now have had a pretty standard track record when it comes to bad PR moves, but the reason I liked them in the first place is because I thought they were trying not to behave like a standard company.

My opinion is that they're being heavily criticized for stumbling because they set the expectations pretty high. The FOSS world is demanding because of the higher standards and any regular business practices will be frowned upon.
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"thought they were a hardware company"
... with the exception of PureOS? ???

"FOSS world ... higher standards"
Are these defined somewhere? Is there a standards committee? ;-)
Is Purism somehow violating copyleft somewhere?

"regular business practices"
I don't have a clue what you're trying to imply here? rebranding? subscription charges? paid employees? ???

@LogicalDash@cybre.space @skynebula @purism

@lwriemen @hypolite @LogicalDash @purism
They violated so many FLOSS licences (and ethics) when launching Librem One

@skynebula
Which ones? The only thing I've seen is that they failed to explicitly state the rebranding aspect. From what I've seen in the code I've looked at, everything seems pretty copyleft compliant.

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@lwriemen @LogicalDash @skynebula @purism Regular business practices: mishandling users’ privacy, either through tracking, poor security or plain trading, frigid stance on hate speech moderation, rebranding and appropriation of FOSS. These behaviors are widespread among companies, and generally of little consequence, outside of the FOSS world, that is.
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