TMobile is kicking old Android phones off their network in January because vendors have abandoned the hardware and they no longer get security updates. Android's model of forcing you to buy new hardware every few years to get security updates is broken. https://www.tmonews.com/2020/12/t-mobile-will-no-longer-support-devices-january/
@kyle Where revenue streams are tied to device sales, and existing-device support is an ongoing uncompensated cost, this is a rational decision on the part of businesses.
What's Purism's approach to cashflow if not device sales, service subscriptions, advertising, or surveillance, the four standards?
@dredmorbius Purism's approach is tied to its Social Purpose, which allows us to put our ethics at a higher priority than "increasing shareholder value" compared to a traditional C Corp.
@kyle Is there an exlainer on this?
@kyle Thanks, though mission and purpose aren't cashflow generators.
C-Corps can also revert or be sold, as appears to have occurred with Ello (I'm uncertain what the story is, but following a very loud public benefit orientating, things got vewwy vewwy qwiet after the founders were uninstalled, and distinctly opaque).
Purism does have service offerings, e.g., the rather premium-priced SIM / mobile-resale service.
I'm just getting more clued in to the inherent traps of technology pricing models, and why dark patterns (original AT&T, IBM, Oracle, Microsoft, Red Hat, Google, Facebook, ...) are so prevalent. It's what cost and revenue structures dictate.
Or look at the failures: Osborne, Wang, DEC, Cray, SGI, Palm, Sun, every commercial Linux distro not named "Red Hat". Most hit a point where revenues couldn't fund the next development stage. Yahoo shows that the monetised eyeballs can glaze over as well.
Somehow there's got to be recurring revenue. I'm watching with interest, I don't quite see it. Selling durable widgets, eventually everyone's got s sufficiently familiar, sufficiently performant, sufficiently useful, and not self-evidently booby-trapped-and-tripwired widget. Though as the niche entrant, that might take a while. Premium power-user market, maybe faster readily than otherwise though.
And I can understand not spilling the secret sauce if you do have this figured, but I'm scratching my head, as cats do....
@dredmorbius Business model is similar to Apple's but with our ethics: sell things people are willing to pay for (premium hardware and services) to fund things people aren't as willing to pay for (FOSS development).
@dredmorbius Our market is everyone, not just tech-literate, because everyone deserves privacy, security, and freedom. Customers prioritize those three legs of the stool differently and you might be surprised how many non-tech-literate folks are happy laptop customers. Like w/ laptops, the phone market mostly starts with a FOSS core who values freedom first, and will expand outward to everyday folks who value privacy or security over freedom.
@kyle That's heartening to hear, I hope that core customer base does grow.
Any word on tablets?
@dredmorbius I typically can't comment on the potential for future hardware or revisions of current hardware :)
@kyle You're no fun!
This is my now 3y.o. gripe / feature request.
https://ello.co/dredmorbius/post/lqgtwy_rhsfbdh5cdxb1rq
9-10in. (230--250mm) device, folio 6-row bluetooth keyboard, case folds for in-lap keyboarding, 8--10 hr battery. Runs Linux, browser, email, bookreader, and a robust shell userland. Storage expandable to at least 128 GB, if not higher (iPad goes to 1TB last I checked)
Android and iOS both fail to deliver joy.
The vendor relationship for a decent keyboard really is key.
I'm also looking at Pine. You and them seem to be the market.
@kyle The logitech adaptable keyboard shown has pretty poor ergodynamics, BTW.
@kyle Addenda: Termux has been the one App for Android that does not precisely suck. It's a long way from a full Linux distro, but remains the most useful single tool on the platform.
Both Android and iOS are taking steps to make shell environments less viable. Another reason both are non-starters.
@kyle And as I was mentioning abut Termux: it an no longer be installed/updated via Google Play Store:
https://wiki.termux.com/wiki/Termux_Google_Play
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25644964
As I'm looking at bookreaders, this is a huge strike against the Onyx Boox (Android 10).
Remarkable2 is promising but inexplicably comes with ony 8 GB onboard storage, non-expandable. I have > 36 GB of documents I'd like acess to (text, excluding audio or video), and anticipate significantly more. Storage is cheap. Being chained to a media server, whether my own or third-party, is suboptimal.
@kyle FYI: My thinking is evolving. Tablets are notworth it, with the exception of e-ink book-readers / podcast light Web use.
Give me either a damned good, or useful-but-cheap, laptop, a suite of intelligently interoperating other devices, an e-ink reader, maybe a phone (smart or dumb) for mobility, and a fucking fantastic desktop.
https://joindiaspora.com/posts/880e5c403edb013918e1002590d8e506
@kyle That is plausible.
The tech-literate world is small, though can show strong allegiances.
https://www.nngroup.com/articles/computer-skill-levels/