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I believe I have successfully upgraded Debian from Bullseye to Bookworm! Xfce desktop. Debian documentation is extensive but somwhat difficult to find. I will review a bit more of post-installation topics. Documentation for Debian 12 Bookworm: debian.org/releases/stable/amd

@hehemrin I use Debian on two computers, & I love it, but it seems like the people at Debian hate anyone who uses Debian & tries to make it as difficult as possible to find the right .iso or information for drivers. It’s like a low-level Linux IQ test. It’s too bad b/c I think Debian 12 is an amazing distribution and could be an Ubuntu killer if it Debian did things the right way (installation, for example, still has unnecessary, extra steps a newer user may have problems with, etc.).

@WillA763 I agree! Or perhaps a more positive explanation: Debian has been around for many years, have many variants, has a lot of documentation and therefore the website has grown wildly! When I installed Bullseye (fresh installation) I recall installation worked quite easy. My first Debian Buster was more complicated due to non-free issues. With Bullseye I found the iso that was the best for me... "hidden" somewhere. Until now I only have Debian for exploration, I am actually still on the 1/2

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road to Linux in slow pace. The machine I move to has Linux Mint Cinnamon, so that will likely be my start for Linux daily driver. But I'm really considering if I should go to LMDE later (I have an installation for exploration). LMDE is a bit more userfriendly esp for a beginner than Debian. But it is not ruled out I will go Debian instead. Because I really like Debian. So Debian, or LMDE, likely with a few flatpaks where I want latest (or missing) sw are tempting for me.

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@hehemrin LMDE is a great distro. It’s an older kernel & version of Debian, so Debian 12 will be better if you want the latest software. And you lose nothing with LMDE over Mint, except the PPAs, which you can work around. Also, LMDE uses less CPU than Mint (Mint’s Ubuntu base is a resource hog). But yes, Debian is much improved. I tried it on version 2.1 or 2.2, and it was a bear to install (lots of hardware issues back then). Both are great choices for daily productivity.

@WillA763 Mint plans to release LMDE 6 based on Debian 12 relatively soon, later this summer is their intention. They will release next Mint upgrade any next day, so I guess as soon as that release is settled, they will focus on LMDE 6.

@WillA763 Thanks for your view and knowledge Mint vs LMDE. Maybe I shoulkd reconsider and swap to LMDE on intended daily driver before I move over fully.

@hehemrin I always advocate testing & slow adoption, just in case. I have my main productivity computer & then my testing computer & my play ones (using a lot of VMs of late for those). But last time I switched (from Mint to Debian), a few years ago (nothing against Mint, it’s still a very good distro), I took it slowly, over a month of daily testing to make sure it wouldn’t screw anything up. I knew it wouldn’t but I was burned by KDE 4 & Arch in my past use (learned the hard way).

@hehemrin Just did the same, updated one of my machines running XfCE from bullseye to bookworm. Did it, no issues, and cannot see any difference now using it... 😄 suppose that is a good thing.

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