The FBI produced this nice chart comparing what kinds of privacy leaks the various messaging apps have.
@guardianproject Here's the link to the pdf-document as on propertyofthepeople.org
Worth reminding too that this is lawful access. It doesn't get into weaknesses that an adversary who doesn't care about the law could do. Very relevant for some use cases.
We need more than one platform at signal's level of privacy.
@guardianproject That's the Unclassified version. I'm pretty sure there's a more secret and complete version out there somewhere.
... and an easier to read table
@guardianproject I wonder, what the corresponding chart "Non Lawful Access" says...
@guardianproject crazy, this makes it looks like Telegram is the least accessible to the FBI, despite missing encryption by default 🤔
@Upjohn94 @blueberry @guardianproject I can't speak to the encryption but I just know trust is a very important factor, too! So I wouldn't underestimate the value of "privacy by policy" either...
I also don't get why encrypted chats aren't the default for Telegram. But I think people don't give Telegram enough credit. (It's also the superior app IMHO)
Secret chats in Telegram are only single device so they’d lose a lot of users, and although I do agree Telegram has a better UI/UX, it’s mostly bc they can just do a lot of it *not* E2EE
@blueberry @Upjohn94 @guardianproject Signal's servers are in the US and they received US gov funding... I suppose all of that would not matter if the E2EE encryption was solid but I can see how some people would have trust issues. But all of this doesn't really matter anyway, since I have 2 contacts on Signal, about 6-8 on Telegram and the rest is still on WhatsApp (this is Germany) I have Matrix and XMPP but I have no contacts there outside of the foss community 😅
@guardianproject we value your security says apple...