Elias @eliasr@librem.one

@karlemilnikka

En annan sak som togs upp i avsnittet var en app som tydligen bara fungerar för Apple-enheter, och det sas då att den kan vara bra för personer som "är Apple-användare och inte har planer på att byta", ungefär. Men hallå vill jag säga, vänta lite här nu.

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@karlemilnikka

Jag tycker det vore på sin plats att varna användarna för att Google tydligen har dålig koll på vad som finns på Google Play, det kan mycket väl vara malware man får där.

Gör Google alls någon granskning avsäkerhet, eller handlar reglerna kring Google Play snarare om censur och att Google vill befästa sin egen roll som den som har makten att bestämma vilka appar som får finnas?

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@karlemilnikka

Farliga skadeprogram (malware) har publicerats på Google Play Store, får vi veta i podden. Föranleder det någon kritik mot Google? Nej, snarare verkar det som om Google varit duktiga som tagit bort skadeprogrammen efter att andra påpekat problemet.

Är inte en stor del av poängen med Google Play att apparna där ska vara granskade så att man inte ska råka ut för malware?

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I detta avsnitt av "Kommentar till Bli säker-podden" är mitt budskap detsamma som vanligt: bra podd, men @karlemilnikka är alldeles för snäll mot jättarna Google och Apple. 🙂

Har lyssnat på avsnitt 213: https://nikkasystems.com/2023/09/01/podd-213-sakra-anteckningsappar/

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@bragefuglseth oh I understand that, the advisory board only provide "advice".

But why would GNOME want advice from Google? It's like the sheep getting advice from the lion on how to stay safe.

Even if we assume that there is no real influence (like lobbyists have to influence over political decisions?) it makes GNOME look ridiculous especially when privacy issues are discussed. Zero credibility.

Do I need to explain why it looks bad for GNOME to be associated with Google?

@KarroH @samuel

Regeringen väntar med att ta ställning verkar det som. Jag gissar att det beror på att SD inte har sagt åt dem vad de ska göra ännu.

@sonny GNOME first of all needs to kick out Google from its "Advisory Board", if GNOME wants any credibility regarding privacy issues. https://wiki.gnome.org/AdvisoryBoard

Having Google there looks really, really bad. It makes me sick thinking about the kind of "advice" Google can provide.

How does GNOME leadership not see how inappropriate that is?

#ShotOnLibrem5

@MoneroTalk

Hi, great to see you here on mastodon!

I listened to many MoneroTalk episodes, appreciate them a lot, very interesting stuff.

I think it would be good to link to https://www.monerotalk.live/ here also, for those (like me) who want to avoid youtube.

@cakewallet@mastodon.sdf.org

@LwaxanaTroi

welcome 😃

@allstartrek

@davbjo bra förslag men jag tycker nog att 50 miljoner kundre räcka. Kan kompensera det med att man får ett ännu finare diplom, kanske med guldkant och ett personligt grattis och underskift av kungen eller Greta eller nån.

@samuel Karlstad University is on the list!

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@lispi314

So I guess the answer would be that to persuade someone, instead of trying to tell them how things are, one should try to nudge them into a situation where they are likely to discover things for themselves.

Not sure exactly how, but something like that, I think.

It's like Morpheus says to Neo in the movie:

"Unfortunately, no one can be told what the Matrix is. You have to see it for yourself."

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@lispi314 it's frustrating but I think somehow this is the kind of thing that you cannot be told by someone else, instead you must discover it for yourself in some way.

I have tried to remember how it was for me personally, but I cannot pinpoint when I started understanding and caring about these things. But I'm pretty sure it was not that somebody told me, it was more like I started to think about things on my own.

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@tschaefer suppose I work for an internet service provider (ISP). Do you have any advice on what an ISP should be doing to help IPv6 adoption? I have the impression that everybody is blaming others for the slow adoption, it's always someone else's fault and therefore little gets done. If an individual ISP were to look at its own part, what should the ISP do?

@lispi314

The fact that what you are saying is very important makes it even more difficult to persuade them, because the consequences of you being right would be too heavy, too hard to take in.

They would need to accept that their way of life is stupid and that they need to fundamentally change. Nobody wants to change, it's so much easier to keep living as usual.

I'm not sure if I managed to explain this, but do you see roughly what I mean?

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@lispi314

> Why?

It's an interesting and important question.

I don't think it's that it's too abstract as you suggested, I think it's more about that what you are telling them, it they accepted it, would be such a huge change in their world view.

We humans have a very strong tendency to stick to our beliefs. When confronted with something that turns our world upside down we do almost anything to avoid our worldview collapsing. It's like being told you live in the matrix.

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