@paoloredaelli yeah, I'm sure they're using the existing #matrix libraries from @element. The real question is: will they open up their app and get it on #FDroid!

@eighthave
So the application is **not** #freeasinfreedm 😭
#AutoMattic has shown encomiable commitment to freedom. I hope they will be able to free the client.
@element

@paoloredaelli @element @eighthave

didn't they sell WordPress data to Ai data learning? microsoft? google? amazon? they sold wp users data down the river. are they to be trusted still?

#freeasinfreedm #AutoMattic

@sammi
I'm not saying that they are saints 😅
Software #licensing is one aspect, how they manage user data of services that people do not pay is another. One is positive, the other not as you correctly state but other companies behave much worse, think of #Gafam
If you want to avoid seeing your data being sold you have to avoid zero price services, where you're actually the product
@eighthave @element

The double meaning of English word "free", one related to freedom, the other meaning gratis or price zero always puzzles me, being Italian, as like in other Latin derived languages we have two words: libero and gratis.
Do you think that starting using "gratis" in English is understandable?

PS: resharing is appreciated

@sammi
@eighthave @element

@paoloredaelli @sammi @element "gratis" is clear to many English speakers since they also speak other languages, like EU standard English. For the majority of mother tongue English speakers, my guess is "gratis" would be weird but somehow understandable. There would be many who had never heard the word. "Gratuity" is probably the closest word in English, but has a different meaning.

(For context, my mother tongue is English, father tongue German, and I speak a bit of some other languages.)

@eighthave @paoloredaelli @element the client app is indeed proprietary, but it's not really fair to say they just use elements libraries. The stuff they run server-side and the bridges they made and maintain are open source.

@mvgorcum @paoloredaelli @element Ok, good to know! I was looking at the client, so I overlooked that. It is important that they've released key pieces, the bridges, as #FreeSoftware Let's hope this means they will contribute to the shared maintenance of the Matrix ecosystem for all the pieces they use.

@Orca that's disappointing...