@delta Yeah, it took a few more seconds to upload the image. The little animated circle icon was probably indicating that. Whereas plain text is very close to instant. Not a problem, just obviously needs to transfer more data.

@adam ah yes. btw, on the receiving side of a message you can go to "message details/info" and see the "hops" -- i.e. which time the message took at each of the hops between the sender and the receiver devices.

@delta Is that the tap & hold received message> "i" circle icon > Sent/Received time codes? Picture took 30 seconds according to that then, while text takes 4, but it felt way faster in the devices.

@adam yes. so the picture maybe was some MBs large. If you send it as a picture then, depending on your media settings, it should be compressed down. If you send it as a file (and not as media/image) then it's sent "as-is" even if it's large.

@delta Cool. Understood. Do the timestamps also include the time to send read receipts? That might explain how 4 seconds feels like 1 on the devices.

@adam not exactly sure. You could ask on the https://support.delta.chat forum (you can login via a qr-code scan btw) -- and just to be sure: if you or your friends ever setup multiple devices then make sure to read https://delta.chat/en/help#can-i-use-delta-chat-on-multiple-devices-at-the-same-time

@delta
I was planning on posting a suggestion to the forums that the error message include a link with better instructions! The "You may want to send an Autocrypt setup message from there" error is very vague! How!?

@adam we want to get rid of the need for autocrypt-setup by offering a direct "setup second device" UI workflow. it's in the works.

@delta Oh good! 'Cause as it is, that's going to be confusing for normal people.

@adam sure. We are doing our best to try to solve this and many other issues on five platforms ;)

@adam that said ... sure, send a suggestion there. It'd be in general a good idea to have links that go to (internationalized) explanations. a bit like whatsapp does it with "read/learn more" links.

@pescetarian Ha! Yes. I used this script (https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/emailwiz) on a cheap KVM VPS from here (https://www.racknerd.com/kvm-vps). Just learning how to do it.

@esmail @delta No, sorry my wording was confusing. I made my own regular Dovecot/Postfix server for use with DeltaChat. Learning how to do it is what I was excited about. :)

@adam ooooooh, gotcha. and indeed postfix is "exciting" to setup

took me a week to figure it out 😂 and congrats 🎉

@esmail Haha! Yes, I'm having the "Wow, it works!" feeling today. :D

@adam I'm really happy for you and enjoy it :D

and a little cheat sheet, use https://github.com/LukeSmithxyz/emailwiz to deploy postfix faster 😉

@esmail That's exactly what I used this morning! :) Reading the script, I can see how it could have been much more work.

@adam well, common source 😂

@adam or mailcow, I love mailcow.

@esmail I'll have to learn mailcow another day. I tried https://yunohost.org, but that took up way too much server memory.

@adam mailcow uses docker and other containers so it will use a lot of memory too. your best bet is vanilla postfix.

mailcow is easy to use because it got services together tied up and ready to use, your webmail, caldav, even antivirus to scan attachments (but you can disable it to save memory)

@adam I think mailcow recommend memory is 2/4GB

@esmail Ah, thanks! Yeah, I'd need to use a better server for that probably.

@adam oh you need, mailcow is demanding. I'm lazy guy 😂

I use snikket instead of Prosody and mailcow instead of postfix. demanding but easy to setup