@sysrq @enigmatico let's add a third column where it's pike talking and everything listed is plan 9 and after bell labs related appliances
@sysrq @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @enigmatico @m0xee I'm sorry, but it appears that your message isn't federating properly because you're using a gay OS like Gentoo or Arch. Have you tried being normal and using an OS like Redhat or Ubuntu?
@Forestofenchantment @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee debian based distros are awful, apt is slow as fuck, packages are outdated, and these distros usually come with a shit ton of bloat that nobody needs.

I've never used redhat and i never will. there once was a guy in radare2, who works at redhat. He left the project in 2019, everything he did was awful, we're still stumbling over shitty code that he committed, that is causing problems today. I won't use a distro from a company who hired this guy.
@condret @get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @m0xee and "bloat" is just packages preinstalled that you were going to install anyways. Like SSH, Libreoffice, and FFMPEG.
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Bloat isn't software that you might need or not and that you can easily uninstall like ffmpeg of libreoffice, but thing that build an infrastructure of its own, like systemd or pulseaudio, bringing in a myriad of dependencies, adding another layer of abstraction that you might not want on this machine — or at all! But somehow distro maintainers still assume that you have to have them just for the sake of uniformity.

@get @Suiseiseki @nyanide @sysrq @enigmatico @condret

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I'm perfectly fine with these things when they are optional, an luckily, there are still distros that allows you to not have them, but at times it gets ridiculous — why would any application, even indirectly, depend on systemd. How can e.g. an instant messenger dictate you what init system to use.
Maintainers of distros that allow for such flexibility have to invest a great deal of effort to work this all around.

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