idk why people hate on MacBooks so much tbh, its absolutely solid programming and media watching machine, with insane battery life to go with. I watched a 2h30m movie on 5GHz WiFi and only 12% was used.

@munir
If you enjoy both the hardware and the software, there is nothing wrong with it, but if you don't — there isn't much you can do about it. I'm a former Apple user and I simply can't stand modern Apple UIs, it's all just disgusting to me 😖 I can somewhat mitigate it with hacks, but it makes the system less stable and why would I be fighting with the system that I have paid premium to enjoy?

@m0xee @munir also, you buy a mac and use it for years. So you are not throwing money more than once so it pays off. The same is not true for most windows laptops
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@GNUxeava
Generally true — yes. But of course there are exceptions, I've had experience with both: faulty Apple devices — I'm typing this right now on an old MBP with fried GPU, and all the models they had produced that year and the next one had issues with discrete GPU, Apple admitted it only in 5 years and started a replacement program 🤪
And there are quite durable and reliable "Windows" laptops — technically ThinkPads are just that, some HP laptops also turn out to be fine 🤷
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@m0xee @munir I've only had bad experiences with hp laptops. Maybe it is the price point, but other manufacturers produce better builds for the same price. Can't say for their high end lineups like spectre. They look great in person. I've seen people use it for a few years now with no issues. Though one did complain about it getting slower but it might be windows 11 or the aging ssd

@GNUxeava
Yeah, I was talking about their business and high-end consumer lines. basically Spectre and ProBooks, the cheaper ones are indeed meh 🤮 Even among higher end ones there are disappointing models.
Speaking of Apple, there's also higher resell value in their devices to the point of being amusingly overrated by some — some onlune ads are like: man, this machine is completely unusable in the current year and you want to sell it at half of its original price, are you nuts? 😆
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@GNUxeava @m0xee @munir i had 2 hp laptops and they were good, but these days i've heard they are awful

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