the people who are most vocally against AI, seem to be the ones who feel the strongest about ownership of their creative output.

This has always been very silly to me, because I constantly create, and either something is just for me, or it's something for others. If it's the latter, the moment others see it, it's no longer mine. It doesn't belong to me.
this is a point of view that is hammered into people as most important, for a whole host of reasons.
we now live in an age where this concept of ownership is being eroded from multiple fronts. LLMs completely destroy the idea of intellectual property (which should never have existed in the first place)
same for copyright (which only existed insofar as the industrial production of created works was a privilege only afforded to the few that could afford the expense)
I understand their points of view, it does not change the fact that those with the most money in this society have finally gotten exactly what they've wanted: Creativity without the labor.
if we are to get through this insanity, we all have to come to grips with ourselves and the relationship to capital, which has told us point blank that "our capital is our labor."
whatever happens as a result of that, is what happens, but it is being forced upon us.
reform? or revolution? I understand both, and am okay with both.

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@tschak Mastodon has been incredibly down on AI as of late, so its nice to actually hear a levelheaded take on the topic.

I've been dabbling with it for a month or so now on an open source project of mine and its pretty neat stuff. My free time is at an absolute premium these days, so I feel absolutely no guilt about having these things provide extra code review or make some unit tests. It just means I can produce a something better than before in less time. Its just a tool.

@leimon Thank you.

I am genuinely trying to ask for all of us to participate in some good old fashioned dialectical analysis.

@tschak @leimon That would be great. On Mastodon, there is almost no AI slop annoying me. What is annoying a LOT more are the frequent posts of AI haters. Even if you feel indifferent about AI, you cannot escape them. They don't care about an open discussion, they just spill their hate. I started to mute them.

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