We really need to standardize menu abbreviations for vegetarian and vegan. I appreciate any effort at all, but "v", "vg", "V" -- none of these are helpful. Neither are pictures of carrots. Or leaves.

@johns ambiguous standalone but I'm rarely confused in context. v9/v4 or v8n/v3n are ideas, but easy to confuse depending on font or writing!

@mlinksva Interesting. I'm pretty regularly confused/uncertain, probably the worst at places where I can't tell if they have no vegan options, or the "v" means vegan and they don't have the vegetarian options marked at all. Like when desserts that seem to be vegetarian are not marked with anything, and other menu items have a "v".

@johns now that you mention it I guess I have been similarly confused, but needed the further prompt to recall as there are always options to not order (especially desert) or ask. But yes it'd be better to standardize. I like your other commenters ideas mastodon.social/@monnier@oldby that instead the presence of animal products should be mandatorily labeled and mastodon.social/@johns@librem. that "vegan" and "veggie" are OK, though latter could include former. Include "t" like "vegt", or back to +o/l label?

@johns encountered a new-to-me scheme. V+: vegan, V: vegetarian.

I'd kinda enjoy V: vegan, add a minus for each animal product. So raw meat would be V-, as would say goat cheese pizza.

Geek code was probably too silly to be widely copied but I can imagine a world in which it was.

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@mlinksva Maybe we should start fresh with a V divorce.. Switch to "PB", and "V" can be "PB-D" for plant based except dairy. But if we're not careful, we'll end up with VPDX.

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