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We really need to standardize menu abbreviations for vegetarian and vegan. I appreciate any effort at all, but "v", "vg", "V" -- none of these are helpful. Neither are pictures of carrots. Or leaves.

@johns
That's because the concept is broken. It's the non-veg that should be labeled.

@johns ambiguous standalone but I'm rarely confused in context. v9/v4 or v8n/v3n are ideas, but easy to confuse depending on font or writing!

@mlinksva Interesting. I'm pretty regularly confused/uncertain, probably the worst at places where I can't tell if they have no vegan options, or the "v" means vegan and they don't have the vegetarian options marked at all. Like when desserts that seem to be vegetarian are not marked with anything, and other menu items have a "v".

@johns now that you mention it I guess I have been similarly confused, but needed the further prompt to recall as there are always options to not order (especially desert) or ask. But yes it'd be better to standardize. I like your other commenters ideas mastodon.social/@monnier@oldby that instead the presence of animal products should be mandatorily labeled and mastodon.social/@johns@librem. that "vegan" and "veggie" are OK, though latter could include former. Include "t" like "vegt", or back to +o/l label?

@johns At least the french seems to have mostly stopped using their bad translation of vegan™ to «végétalien» as it's way too close to «végétarien» (vegetarian), specially for foreigners.

And I think menus should to be able to write vegan and veggie, they are rather short words, specially compared to the ingredients list.
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