@malwaretech
Really? I hadn't heard of any anti-semitic or socialist posts from him. What exactly did he say that was nazi related?
@jlcrawf @malwaretech socialism isn't Naziism please don't make me explain this to you
@Leroy @malwaretech
Sure, explain to me how the National Socialists weren't "real" socialists.
@jlcrawf @malwaretech they weren't socialists at all. They adopted the word socialism to seem cool to the less informed working class people in the wake of post-WWI economic struggles. The "national" in "national socialism" is what you should be looking at aka nationalism which is a component of fascism, which was the actual Nazi ideology.
@Leroy @malwaretech
This is not an explanation of how they were not socialist. This is you simply stating that they were not. I am still waiting for my explanation.
@jlcrawf @malwaretech it is an explanation. That's all there was to it. It was a grift. It got them into power, then they showed their true colors. I even gave you some historical context. I shouldn't have to define socialism and nationalism in order for you to be able to participate in this discussion, the definitions for both are readily available on the internet.
And before you say it because everyone else I've ever had this talk with (and I hope you're different but I'm sure you're not) is a horseshoe theory enjoyer, horseshoe theory is bullshit, fish hook theory forever. Anything right of center is guaranteed to have awful fascist philosophy behind it in some way, whether covertly or blatantly.
@Leroy @malwaretech
Again, you saying it does not make it true. If the National Socialists were not "real" socialists, then it should be very simple to say, the tenets of socialism are ....., the nazis believed ......., they failed at socialism because ......
You have not done that. You keep saying that they are not socialists, but you have done absolutely nothing to expalin why.
@jlcrawf @malwaretech socialism is about putting more control in the hands of the people, particularly in relation to labor. The Nazis clearly didn't do that. They consolidated all the power upward to their God Emperor so he could create a eugenicist ethnostate
@Leroy @malwaretech
There is no question that the nazis consolidated their power, however, I am having difficulty coming up with an example of a socialist country that has not consolidated their power to a central government. Quite often with dictatorships. While this may not be the ideal socialist model, it is the most used socialist model and hardly enough to disqualify them from being considered socialist.
I always find it fascinating when people try to make "Socialism" into something cohesive, something categorized.
"the end justifies the means" is not a cohesive or even a rational practice.
Turning every and all aspects of civic live into political activism is not sustainable, it will destroy any civilization.
"Vote Blue No Matter Who" is a totalitarian political policy.
Please stop trying to make Socialism work...
Most communities in the USA functioned well enough before the Socialists showed up.
