*turns off all 'assistant' features on phone
Gemini *sends a text message because it's turned off*
Okay is there a phone Linux? This sucks
> Okay is there a phone Linux? This sucks
There is lots of good stuff. Look at for example #LinuxMobile #Phosh #PinePhone #Librem5 @linmob @phosh
@eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh
Proud librem 5 owner. Been daily driving linux on my phone for over 5 years.
It is not yet for everyone, but personally I will not go back. If you are seriously considering a linux phone, I can give you the good, the bad, and the ugly so that you know what you are getting yourself into.
@joshua @eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh
Same here, proud Librem 5 user who will never go back. However, if you are not 200% committed to Linux (which is necessary for the Librem 5) maybe the FuriPhone FLX 1 is interesting for you.
I don't own it but it sounds like a good device which is on a hardware level not open source but is still a good step towards Linux on phones and it is probably easier to use then a Librem 5.
https://furilabs.com/
@zwarf @joshua @eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh
I'm also using the #Librem5 as my daily, primary phone for nearly three years now. The software keeps improving. I really like to have full control over my phone. And that the software is designed to give the user freedom and power.
https://janvlug.org/blog/one-week-librem-5-field-trial-day-1/
@dirkjanl @janvlug @zwarf @joshua @eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh
/e/OS is an insecure mess. The CEO of Murena also regularly harasses developers of other FOSS Android-based operating systems. Not a trustworthy company at all.
https://eylenburg.github.io/android_comparison.htm
Here you can see how /e/OS compares against other Android-based systems.
@eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh The Librem 5 is a literal scam. It's waaaaayy too expensive for an almost 7-year-old device using even older components. You also need to be lucky to receive a device at all, even if you have preordered it many years ago. The company is pretty shady.
And most critically, there are some massive security issues in PureOS, as well as other mobile Linux operating systems: https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux-phones.html
Mobile Linux is not at all comparable to Android or iOS.
Using a secure, Android-based OS like #GrapheneOS is the much better option.
> The Librem 5 is a literal scam
No. Please don't use the words "literal" and "scam" when you clearly don't know what those words mean.
> Mobile Linux is not at all
> comparable to Android or iOS.
True! That's exactly why I like Mobile Linux so much 🤣
I understand that you like GrapheneOS but that's based on Android and therefore not interesting to me. It's just too much under Google's influence for my taste. I strive for independence from Google.
@eliasr I'm interested in a private and secure mobile device, no matter which company builds it or what OS it's running. iPhones were way ahead of Android security for many years. Then Google slowly caught up with their Pixel phones. At the same time, GrapheneOS is emerged as a Pixel-only hardened AOSP fork. It combines the excellent hardware security of Pixel devices with a hardened software stack, including a hardened C Library, memory allocator, secure app spawning, and many more features.
I don't think that Linux phones are inherently bad, but the Librem 5 is definitely the wrong approach for building such an experimental device. Pine64 has been shipping phones for years, and their prices are very fair. PinePhones are excellent for developers who want to get a preview of the mobile Linux experience, or contribute code themselves. @droidian is another great approach, because it doesn't waste any time on hardware compatibility, etc., and instead just uses Android devices and runs a mobile Linux environment on top of the Android kernel and hardware abstraction libraries through Halium. They can be used as excellent prototypes for developing Linux mobile apps, desktop environments, etc.
But that's all that mobile Linux currently is: An WIP development platform, not a production-ready product that can be sold to users. Purism falsely tries to market it that way. That's the issue I have with them.
@eliasr @batichi @linmob @phosh Also #SailfishOS