> Okay is there a phone Linux? This sucks
There is lots of good stuff. Look at for example #LinuxMobile #Phosh #PinePhone #Librem5 @linmob @phosh
> The Librem 5 is a literal scam
No. Please don't use the words "literal" and "scam" when you clearly don't know what those words mean.
> Mobile Linux is not at all
> comparable to Android or iOS.
True! That's exactly why I like Mobile Linux so much 🤣
I understand that you like GrapheneOS but that's based on Android and therefore not interesting to me. It's just too much under Google's influence for my taste. I strive for independence from Google.
@eliasr I'm interested in a private and secure mobile device, no matter which company builds it or what OS it's running. iPhones were way ahead of Android security for many years. Then Google slowly caught up with their Pixel phones. At the same time, GrapheneOS is emerged as a Pixel-only hardened AOSP fork. It combines the excellent hardware security of Pixel devices with a hardened software stack, including a hardened C Library, memory allocator, secure app spawning, and many more features.
I don't think that Linux phones are inherently bad, but the Librem 5 is definitely the wrong approach for building such an experimental device. Pine64 has been shipping phones for years, and their prices are very fair. PinePhones are excellent for developers who want to get a preview of the mobile Linux experience, or contribute code themselves. @droidian is another great approach, because it doesn't waste any time on hardware compatibility, etc., and instead just uses Android devices and runs a mobile Linux environment on top of the Android kernel and hardware abstraction libraries through Halium. They can be used as excellent prototypes for developing Linux mobile apps, desktop environments, etc.
But that's all that mobile Linux currently is: An WIP development platform, not a production-ready product that can be sold to users. Purism falsely tries to market it that way. That's the issue I have with them.