Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation
motorolanews.com/motorola-thre

> Motorola and the GrapheneOS Foundation will work to strengthen smartphone security and collaborate on future devices engineered with GrapheneOS compatibility.

This could be a gamechanger. Congratulations to @GrapheneOS, fingers crossed this works out well!

#InfoSec #GrapheneOS

@rysiek didn’t expect anything good from Motorola Mobility so this is just another reason to never touch their devices
@rysiek they use their project communication channels to spread bs about projects including postmarketOS and GNOME participating in harassment of GrapheneOS team. I don’t expect corporations like Lenovo to ‘love open source’ but working with a foundation that’s explicitly hostile towards FOSS communities is unacceptable.
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@mkljczk @rysiek Yeah, there's a reason I have their accounts blocked everywhere 🙃

@dos @mkljczk this is why we can't have nice things, sigh. :sadcat1:

Yeah, I am aware of GrapheneOS's "communication style". It's bad, no question. But I will remain excited about a major mobile vendor teaming up with an project that remains – for better or worse – the gold standard of Android security, as this will help make this level of security available to many, many more people.

@rysiek @dos is ‘bad’ really all you can say about accusing FOSS project communities and team members of engaging in harassment, comparing them to KiwiFarms…? We won’t ever have nice things if we accept bullying of FOSS developers.

@mkljczk @dos yes, "bad" is the word I use.

Within the FOSS community, of which GrapheneOS happens to also be a part of by the way, we have a broader problem with shit-slinging between projects. GrapheneOS is part of that problem and I would love them stop doing that.

At the same time, I live in a world where there are literally no ethical choices. We are communicating via software right now made by an organization that had been on the receiv8ing end of a lot of valid criticism over the years.

@mkljczk @dos we need people to be able to access safe, secure, privacy-preserving mobile operating systems made by someone who is not Google and is not Apple.

GrapheneOS – with all their undoubtedly shitty approach to communicating with/about other projects – is an option, and if that option gets picked up by a major smartphone brand, I am going to celebrate.

Everyone draws their own line somewhere. You're free to draw it differently. 🤷‍♀️

@rysiek @dos Yeah, agree on the first paragraph, that’s why I prefer to support postmarketOS instead of a soft fork of Google’ operating system that coincidentally also engages in misinformation about the former.

@mkljczk great, you do you and I wish postmarketOS best of luck, hopefully some large smartphone brand also picks them for a partner and we get real choice in the mobile OS space.

@dos

@rysiek @dos no, you can’t wish pmOS best of luck while expressing excitement about their bullies entering into a large partnership

@mkljczk you seem to have an axe to grind, that's great, but I would appreciate it if you went somewhere else to grind it.

@dos

@rysiek @mkljczk In this particular case it really goes much further than just "shit-slinging between projects".

@dos as I already said, you are more than welcome to draw your own line differently than I draw mine.

@mkljczk

@rysiek @mkljczk Well, obviously, you haven't been on the receiving end of that.

@rysiek @mkljczk So has the one I do, it gets tons of flak, but it hits somewhat different when it's not some random confused "fan" but the main face behind a well-known project that threatens you personally to hamper your professional carrier just because they didn't like getting their bullshit corrected.

And I wouldn't bother to reply if it was just about me. It's an established pattern.

@dos tell you what, I will personally help you call them out on that kind of bullshit next time it happens if you allow me to enjoy for a moment the fact that next time an investigative journalist working on a high-profile story asks for advice I will potentially be able to recommend something else than Apple devices without being dangerously negligent.

@mkljczk

@rysiek @mkljczk Yeah, I totally get that. I just wanted to react to hand-waving it as just your usual FLOSS infighting, bad communication, overpassionate nerds being overpassionate nerds etc. as that's very much not what it is.

@rysiek @dos @mkljczk Someone else was pointing out in their original thread that Motorola is also very deeply in bed with Israel and directly supporting the genocide over there.

With that in mind, we probably can't trust that this will remain openly available. Instead, what we may be watching is Graphene being brought to heel. With much funding comes much control.

Time will tell. I'm going to go ahead and keep breathing normally.

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