Motorola announces a partnership with GrapheneOS Foundation
motorolanews.com/motorola-thre

> Motorola and the GrapheneOS Foundation will work to strengthen smartphone security and collaborate on future devices engineered with GrapheneOS compatibility.

This could be a gamechanger. Congratulations to @GrapheneOS, fingers crossed this works out well!

#InfoSec #GrapheneOS

@rysiek didn’t expect anything good from Motorola Mobility so this is just another reason to never touch their devices
@rysiek they use their project communication channels to spread bs about projects including postmarketOS and GNOME participating in harassment of GrapheneOS team. I don’t expect corporations like Lenovo to ‘love open source’ but working with a foundation that’s explicitly hostile towards FOSS communities is unacceptable.

@mkljczk @rysiek Yeah, there's a reason I have their accounts blocked everywhere 🙃

@dos @mkljczk this is why we can't have nice things, sigh. :sadcat1:

Yeah, I am aware of GrapheneOS's "communication style". It's bad, no question. But I will remain excited about a major mobile vendor teaming up with an project that remains – for better or worse – the gold standard of Android security, as this will help make this level of security available to many, many more people.

@rysiek @dos is ‘bad’ really all you can say about accusing FOSS project communities and team members of engaging in harassment, comparing them to KiwiFarms…? We won’t ever have nice things if we accept bullying of FOSS developers.

@mkljczk @dos yes, "bad" is the word I use.

Within the FOSS community, of which GrapheneOS happens to also be a part of by the way, we have a broader problem with shit-slinging between projects. GrapheneOS is part of that problem and I would love them stop doing that.

At the same time, I live in a world where there are literally no ethical choices. We are communicating via software right now made by an organization that had been on the receiv8ing end of a lot of valid criticism over the years.

@rysiek @mkljczk In this particular case it really goes much further than just "shit-slinging between projects".

@dos as I already said, you are more than welcome to draw your own line differently than I draw mine.

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@rysiek @mkljczk Well, obviously, you haven't been on the receiving end of that.

@rysiek @mkljczk So has the one I do, it gets tons of flak, but it hits somewhat different when it's not some random confused "fan" but the main face behind a well-known project that threatens you personally to hamper your professional carrier just because they didn't like getting their bullshit corrected.

And I wouldn't bother to reply if it was just about me. It's an established pattern.

@dos tell you what, I will personally help you call them out on that kind of bullshit next time it happens if you allow me to enjoy for a moment the fact that next time an investigative journalist working on a high-profile story asks for advice I will potentially be able to recommend something else than Apple devices without being dangerously negligent.

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@rysiek @mkljczk Yeah, I totally get that. I just wanted to react to hand-waving it as just your usual FLOSS infighting, bad communication, overpassionate nerds being overpassionate nerds etc. as that's very much not what it is.

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