RE: fosstodon.org/@furilabs/115777

> If you don’t want to follow my route and burn your money to test everything what is available you can also choose to pre-order the FLX1s and support most polished and complete linux smartphone today.

While this is a lovely statement, I would prefer to not burn money on Android based phone as FLX1s.

Having mainline support for your hardware isn't easy or nor cheap. It requires huge investment. I'll rather continue working on OnePlus 6/6T support until it can be daily driven by regular users.

The huge value of mainline based phones is the longevity and relatively low-cost of supporting the phone for many upcoming years. This cannot be reasonable done for Android based devices (at least not ar voluteering scale, without having many full-time employees).

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@okias For these reasons I prefer to buy also the hardware from a company that works on mainlining like the #Librem5 by @purism.

And yes, developing the software and OS is a huge (thus costly) endeavor.

Therefore it is possible to support the development of #PureOS with a total optional subscription:

shop.puri.sm/?s=pureos+subscri

Also the development is in the open. Here you can see the milestones:

source.puri.sm/groups/pureos/-

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@janvlug @okias While I agree that @purism did A LOT for our community (and I praise them for that), their kernel mainlining efforts seem to have stalled a while ago; the L5 kernel is still on 6.6 (now 2 LTS releases behind, and to be EOL'ed 1 year from now) and it currently requires more patches (based on the 400-ish commit count) than any other community-supported phone, if I'm not mistaken.

Until that changes, "mainlining" is sadly no longer a valid argument for recommending the #Librem5.

@awai @janvlug @purism To me, current state of Librem 5 indicates Purism doesn't have enough resources to finish mainlining, nor to invest into syncing PureOS with latest Debian which it's based on. @awai I'm interested, did @purism tried to reach out to Mobian to cooperate at some point to decrease the maintenance burden?

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@okias @awai @janvlug @purism It's progressing again, but there's lots of catch up to play until it's current again 😭

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