@mebbie @rysiek The phones already exist; now it's up to users to adopt them and, if necessary, improve them to match their needs.

I don't see Google closing Android down as a threat to me. If anything, it may make more people actually interested in the alternatives. What is an actual threat to me are institutions and companies assuming that I'm running either Android or iOS. As things are right now, I can manage to live without them just fine, but things keep moving in the wrong direction.

@dos What phones? Gimmicky, expensive phones that are specced worse than current midrangers?

The 'flagship' PinePhone Pro with 4GBs of RAM and very mediocre GPU that retails for a whopping $600 when these are worse specs than a $100 second-hand midrange phone like the Redmi Note 11?

The Fairphone 6 and 5 would be better candidates for Linux support, but they still cost quite a bit.

imo we need more mainstream brands to provide support for mobile Linux, and I think that might start with GrapheneOS' announcement of a mainstream brand that will offer official support for it on their devices starting in 2026.

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@alextecplayz As if that mattered. If a midrange phone could provide me a better value than my 5yo Librem 5, I'd be happy to switch. As it is right now it still allows me to painlessly browse the Web, or buy train tickets, or get on with my daily life. I do miss some stuff in its specs, but upgrading its RAM or GPU are rather low priority entries on my wishlist.

It's not going to get younger and the world around it keeps changing. It will require an upgrade some day. Not today though, not yet.

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