@mono @neikocat Are unironically saying spending money on education is a black hole ? I mean you can throw random graphs all you want, the economical consensus is that it actually makes money on the medium run through growth
@marsxyz @neikocat

education in the united states operates exactly like the military when it comes to spending. the cost of everything is insane and industry lobbying leads to absurd levels of cost disease like insisting that every classroom needs a $1000 full set of WorldBooks in 2021.

the US spends more on education than everywhere else yet more money doesn't seem to actually boost any quantifiable metrics like test scores or literacy. administrative costs just expand to eat the surplus.

you should not fill leaky buckets.
@marsxyz

there's really no reason why it should cost $100k on average to get a single child through high school. aside from just administrative costs, there is so much dumb shit schools spend money on like the entire textbook industry and so much low hanging fruit that the US education system refuses to pick, like open curriculums.

educators themselves are part of the problem because they hate the idea of being evaluated and will do anything to fight things that are completely reasonable in other countries like standardized testing or literacy requirements to graduate. the school-to-prison pipeline wouldn't happen if schools were focused on their primary role (teaching students how to fucking read and add numbers) instead of their current role (expensive prison tutorial level).
@marsxyz

i have seen the inside of the public education system and it made me lose what little respect i had for teachers. you'll shit yourself when you see the price tag of everything you used to play with in the classroom as a kid. everything is gouged thanks to dumb ass standards and regulations written to benefit some specific education material company. every single person in the system from administrators to teachers unions to manufacturers have an interest in increasing budget and decreasing accountability. they will always resist anything that could possibly improve academic performance and continue teaching like it's 1970 because they don't want to be obsoleted.
@marsxyz

fwiw my ideal model of compulsory education is closer to the soviets than the US. not having some retard taboo against sorting students by ability and fostering excellence over the lowest common denominator can do wonders even if you don't have the budget to buy every student a $99 roller scooter and $800 netbook from an approved vendor.
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@mono This was a lot of text to pivot from "spending on education is a black hole" to "we need to make better use of our money in the educational system through reforming it". @marsxyz

@terryenglish @marsxyz

reforming the educational system is impossible without public beheadings so it is actually a black hole.
@terryenglish @marsxyz


or at least as much of a black hole as defense spending (something that should also be reformed but is fucking impossible to do without public beheadings)
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