@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y
Imagine my shock.

@TheMadPirate @Secftblgirl @judgedread @terryenglish This whole boarder shit is so dumb. Even if you're super pro immigration, you can't just have people running across the boarder like that.

It's dangerous for them as well, they get these fucking coyotes that abuse them and sometimes even kill them.

@TheMadPirate Reading that I expected to Crazy Bernie but all I got was more common sense proposals. @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread
Reada like:
Bernie Sanders: Trump is a Dictator with disregard for the Constitution
Also Bernie Sanders: Let me unilaterally put all this executive orders into action because there is no way this bills are gonna be approved by congress

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y
My bet is that the first two Sanders executive orders as president would be : rollback Janus decision and rollback Citizens United decision.

@TheMadPirate Your lack of US citizenship is showing again. Executive orders can't overturn Supreme Court rulings.

@judgedread Ph, you are right about that .
And although not an Executive Order, the dems PRO would effectively nullify Janus.
But if it doesn't pass, Sanders could try it via Executive Order, and I don't think Sanders "a very different kind of presidency" cares very much about the different since most probably no activist federal judge will call an injunction to declare it unconstitutional and block it.

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y
"Banning the exportation of oil"????
I guess Sanders believes than neither Texas nor Alaska provide any electoral college seats.

@TheMadPirate @Secftblgirl @judgedread @terryenglish That kind of stuff is insane, but on the other hand there are things he brings up that I agree with even if I dont endorse his solutions.

@TheMadPirate Isn't the US a net importer of oil anyways? @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread
No since Trump deregulated fracking.
It's a net importer now by a slew margin.

@TheMadPirate @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y We are now energy independent and export oil, not inport oil

@Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
My bad, i meant net exporter by a slew margin.
Thanks for correcting me, girl!

@Secftblgirl There are other ways and means to energy independence. @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread granted, but fossil fuels are the best

@Secftblgirl Depends on what you mean by best. Certainly not when it comes to pollution. Plus they're finite. Eventually we as a civilization will need to find an alternative. @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread dependability, wind farms and solar power is not

@Secftblgirl Someone should really tell that to the Germans. @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread Germany does not concern me, I live the US the greatest country on the planet!

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y
You guys are so lucky!

@terryenglish @Secftblgirl @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate The most evil cunt who ever lived ran Germany into the ground. She delights when Muslim abomintion filth rape German girls, no doubt that atrocity in flesh delights in shutting down all energy.

The archetypal anti-life barren evil Marxist bitch.

Oh, and I see you shunted the conversation private you dirty cocksucker.

Blocked for hiding my glorious words, you scum.

@judgedread I have no idea what you're talking about but I guess I'm scum now 🤷‍♂️ @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @TheMadPirate

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @TheMadPirate @judgedread Virginia is super nuclear, which I support.

I think we have like 4 plants.

@l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread @terryenglish
Sadly, we still are a few decades away for the Plasma Cointenment Reactors like the Tokamak to be viable at industrial scale.

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @TheMadPirate @judgedread @l0wk3y Also: they are extremely power “spare”, unlike fueled power, which is power dense.

This means that you need a lot of windmills and solar panals to get the same amount of power.

This is an underrated problem with solar/wind energy, even among their opponents, IHMO.

@gladicouldnthelp In other words you need to implement them on a grand scale which can and should be done. @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @TheMadPirate @judgedread

@terryenglish @gladicouldnthelp @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread not without taxing the people to death to pay for it

@Secftblgirl Your tax dollars are wasted on useless shit all time. Might as well have it go to something useful for once. Maybe take it out of the black hole that is the military budget. @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp this is true, but the large scale you're referencing would take a massive tax increase on the working class to pay for it. No thanks

@Secftblgirl No it needn't . There's lots of options for financing such an undertaking that doesn't involve turning working class people upside down for their pocket change.
@l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp not with the government involved, it doesn't

@Secftblgirl How so? @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp wut, are you a teenager? Everyone knows the government would f*ck up a wet dream! lol

@Secftblgirl I'm an adult who accepts that government is not perfect but nevertheless is critical to a functioning society. @l0wk3y @TheMadPirate @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp

@terryenglish @Secftblgirl @l0wk3y @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp
If you are about to say "taxing the rich more" I am gonna burst in a laugh and calk you an economic ignorant who should go read about Laffer's Curve.

@terryenglish @Secftblgirl @l0wk3y @judgedread @gladicouldnthelp
The real waste of money is welfare spending.

@Secftblgirl @terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y
Not only that, both have a really high intermittency.

@terryenglish @Secftblgirl @l0wk3y @judgedread
Best as in "most efficient" i.e. zero intermittency and high energy production.

@terryenglish @Secftblgirl No reason not to use up what we have until then. What with global warming being as transparent a lie as equality.

@terryenglish @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread
Something that would anhilated by a green new deal banning fracking.

@TheMadPirate Fracking should be banned. Fossil fuels are a dead end even ignoring the detrimental effect using them has on the climate. @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @judgedread

@terryenglish @TheMadPirate @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl Global warming is a Marxist lie. We should frack the fuck out of these barren states until they're drained dry.

@judgedread @terryenglish @TheMadPirate @l0wk3y and then go and take what we need, if not given freely! lol

@Secftblgirl @TheMadPirate @l0wk3y @terryenglish The House of Saud should lose their oil as payback for 9-11. The organic infestations impeding Western access should be removed.

@judgedread @Secftblgirl @TheMadPirate @terryenglish I'm so fucking sick of dealing with the Saudis.

they are the worst country next to fucking North Korea.

@judgedread @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl @TheMadPirate I really hope you're correct for the sake of the species.

@terryenglish @judgedread @l0wk3y @Secftblgirl
Global Warming is a hoax based on a false premise: that humans are not only irresponsible dangerous beast who do not know what they are doing but at the same time have the power to terraform Earth's Worldwide Climate via Industrial Production.

@TheMadPirate @terryenglish @Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y
>humans know what their doing
You are so wrong that it's hilarious. On the grand scheme of things humanity is a bunch of morons that are stumbling in the dark. If there's one thing that is absolutely true about humans it's that we definitely don't know what we're doing.

Also, calling global warming "terraforming" implies you have little understanding on this topic. 2℃ is hardly terraforming, but because of how complex the climate system is, even a minute change can have stunning effects. But the worst part is, that the entire thing has a feedback loop built into it.

@alyx @Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
I am a realist in the first place, an indeterminist in second place and a rationalist in the third place.
Rational individuals know what they are doing, even when a large part refuses to use critical rational thinking or does it selectively. When they are given equal a priority probabilities to create more efficient products and services, they do. Like the Tomatak, for example.

Secondly, you are assuming there's a) a complete understanding of how global climate works and b) that the initial conditions are known. And so far the only model that adjust to observable data predicts a much much lower increase than 2C in 100 years, not to mention, it doesn't predict the effect of the incoming mini ice age.

@TheMadPirate @alyx @Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
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@Nobody @Secftblgirl @alyx @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
I keep asking myself why people keep confusing a priory probabilities with statistical ensambles.

@TheMadPirate @Nobody @Secftblgirl @alyx @judgedread @terryenglish Whatever is going on, I spent the day waling around DC I counted about 6-7 black dude rocking MAGA hats.

@TheMadPirate @Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
No matter how rational people might be, on the grand scheme of things they don't know what they're doing.

Firstly, there's only so much around you that you can observe and tell the effects of your actions. You know the immediate effect of throwing a plastic bottle in the trash, but after that you don't know if that bottle got recycled or ended up in the stomach of some whale.

Secondly people don't know what they're doing because at least half the time, even the smartest scientists imaginable, are just doing things by trial and error. That's not knowing anything, that's literally just taking a wild guess and hoping for the best. If humanity knew what it was doing Corona-chan spread would have been stopped weeks ago.

You can claim that humans know what they want to achieve, cause lots of times that's true. Some of us clearly wanted to make something more efficient and set out to make Tokamak reactors. But they hardly know what they're actually doing, since it's been decades of trial and error, and the process is still not finished.

As for the climate part:
a) no, there's no complete understanding of how climate works. Partly because the system is probably more complex than anything humanity tackled so far. Heck, even weather prediction fails after a few days. But you don't need perfection to be able to predict some overall trends. The 1 - 2℃ is less important than the observation that temperatures are rising.
b) here's where you're wrong. The initial conditions are known well enough. I'm not aware of any particular model that shows a "much lower" increase than 2℃, but most importantly, how do you even know there's an incoming mini ice age if no model predicts it? That's some bs right there in my view.
Heck, technically we should be in a cooling period RIGHT NOW, not incoming, but now as we speak. Historical and current data about the Sun's activity tells us that we should have been seeing lower and lower temperatures these past few years, with the trend continuing towards the future. Instead we are still seeing increases in temperature, last year being another record setting.

@alyx @Secftblgirl @judgedread @l0wk3y @terryenglish
I was talking about the Russian models, INM-CM4 and INM-CM5 specifically.