@kro @terryenglish @a7 you dotn wanna know what being conservative means in germany

@igeljaeger @kro @a7 @terryenglish Being a realist?

@igeljaeger @a7 @terryenglish Does it mean drinking only a little EU jizz a day instead of the whole bucket?

@kro @a7 @terryenglish are conservatives conservative about values that are 3, 30, 50, 100 years old, or older? Depens on your answer to that

@igeljaeger @kro @a7 @terryenglish
I think for USA, conservatives are more tied to "Christian values" and the constitution than a particular time period.

@igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish completely depends on the conservative, they all call themselves the same thing, some people want 100 years ago when women knew their place some want 30 years ago when the homo’s didnt whine so much.

@a7 @kro @terryenglish 100 years ago german conservative: when jews knew their place

@a7 @igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish Conservatives want to preserve values and traditions as the foundations of society as it moves with the times, obviously. It's a mistake to think it's about imposing a model from the 50s or taking away individual freedoms, it's actually about adapting to the times and figuring out how to have a society of traditional families raising healthy children in the modern world.

@deadheat @igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish bleh bleh bleh ok boomer

@a7 @igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish Reminder that if you are a degenerate hedonist who feels disgust for a healthy society, you are the boomer.
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@deadheat Conservatism is about adapting with the times. Now there's an interesting definition. @kro @igeljaeger @a7

@terryenglish @kro @igeljaeger @a7 Adapting with a modern day economy and technology, not adapting with progressivism, just to be clear.

By the way, the focus on "free markets and small government" pushed by the wealthy elites who took over mainstream conservatism in the United States do not represent this ideal. Their policies have not made it easier for people to marry, have children and educate them in a healthy environment, and it's promoted for their own selfish interests. They also have done nothing to protect the American institutions from being taken over by progressives, who now push their social engineering like transgenderism as mainstream ideas.

@igeljaeger @a7 @terryenglish Yes for America because our values from the start have been around personal liberty. Ironically the left which claims to be liberal really hates personal liberty.

@kro @a7 @terryenglish so why do you call them liberals again

@igeljaeger @a7 @terryenglish They call themselves that. It's like how communists call themselves people and everyone else just rolls with it.

@igeljaeger @kro @a7 @terryenglish
They basically stole the label at some point.

@igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish because WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY where liberal is the common and accepted vernacular. It also goes back to when they were socially liberal back when it was needed

@igeljaeger @kro @a7 @terryenglish

@kro @igeljaeger @a7 @terryenglish European conservatism is about old structures because that's where their nations come from. American conservatism is liberal because American culture is built upon liberty. That's why leftists have such an insatiable lust to steal and redefine the term "liberal" to wrongfully describe themselves. They know once Americans know they are dangerous leftist tyrants, they've lost.

@kro Yup because right wingers never want to violate something as sacrosanct as personal liberty. Just ask Hitler. @a7 @igeljaeger

@terryenglish @a7 @igeljaeger Didn't know hitler was american.

@kro @terryenglish @igeljaeger I stand with Israel

@kro @terryenglish @a7 @igeljaeger he was https://www.warhistoryonline.com/world-war-ii/hitlers-nephew-didnt-join-the_nazis.html

@leyonhjelm @kro @a7 @terryenglish can you guys talk about anything without mentioning Hitler at some point?

@igeljaeger @leyonhjelm @a7 @kro @terryenglish
Isn't there an internet rule that every discussion eventually devolves into talking about Hitler in some way?

@alyx @igeljaeger @a7 @kro @terryenglish William Hitler deserves credit for serving in the US Navy in WWII

@leyonhjelm @a7 @igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish
I honestly kinda hate all of Hitler's nephews/nieces. Their self imposed "we're not gonna have children because what if muh genocidal gene" is THE MOST retarded thing imaginable.

@alyx @a7 @igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish I agree

@alyx @leyonhjelm @a7 @kro @terryenglish imagine feeling German guilt. But people actually point their fingers at you and make you feel it. That's prob the reason

@igeljaeger @alyx @a7 @kro @terryenglish Germany isn't guilty of the Reich's crimes, no matter how much gaslighting goes on.

@leyonhjelm @a7 @alyx @kro @terryenglish yet Americans kept taking our money

@igeljaeger @a7 @alyx @kro @terryenglish your point?

@leyonhjelm @a7 @alyx @kro @terryenglish Americans and the allies planted the guilt culture into germany

@igeljaeger @a7 @alyx @kro @terryenglish so?

@leyonhjelm @igeljaeger @a7 @kro @terryenglish
German guilt is basically why weird stuff like "let all the immigrants come in Germany to replace us" happens.

@igeljaeger @leyonhjelm @a7 @kro @terryenglish
Wait... didn't they do the whole Marshall Plan thing to help rebuild stuff? Am I missing something?

@alyx @a7 @kro @leyonhjelm @terryenglish economics don't equal social. And the Americans benefit from world economy like nobody else does

@igeljaeger @a7 @kro @leyonhjelm @terryenglish
I'm still a bit confused by what you meant with "Americans kept taking our money". You mean that USA profited from trade with Germany?

@alyx @a7 @kro @leyonhjelm @terryenglish we payed reperations for the war. Maybe still do. I'm not up to date

@alyx @igeljaeger @a7 @kro @terryenglish war reparations

@igeljaeger @a7 @kro @leyonhjelm @terryenglish
Yeah, I think the world was a bit of a asshole towards Germany for way too long than it was called for. And it clearly affected people that I don't think were at fault.

@alyx @a7 @kro @leyonhjelm @terryenglish yes and fedi demonstrates it ever. Single. Time.

@igeljaeger @kro @terryenglish @leyonhjelm @a7

Guess there hasn't been enough Iron Sky movies yet.

@kro @a7 @igeljaeger Funny joke brah

@kro @terryenglish @igeljaeger in everywhere else in the world liberal means more what american republicans are into, economically liberal.