@11112011 oh and i should mention.
He hates me... like with a genuine passion.
I don't know what to tell him, he stole my girl and is now complaining that he somehow has some right to her? fuck that, I'm going to help the woman I love and you can go fuck yourself.
Anyway it's an ordeal that I mostly don't deal with, since I don't see him anymore, like ever... and she doesn't seem to care he doesn't like it, she's kind of growing weary of him. It's pretty strange, I don't know, I keep out of their business as much as I can; rarely even mention he exists, rarely bring up any of that.
It's about building trust and maintaining a relationship with the person. If you care about them you will give advice when they ask for it, and encourage them to take care of themselves and improve. Not to tell her that she should dump that dead weight, that won't help anything, that's a damn good way to make yourself a bad guy real fuckin' quick, since it becomes less of, "this person loves me and wants the best" to "this person just wants to fuck over the asshole who fucked him and he's using me to do it"
Hopefully this makes sense.
Maybe... I don't know, I once made her cry for 6 hours straight without meaning to.
Didn't leave, only for one minute to piss and I told her I would be back (we were also outside so i got her an extra jacket)
so yeah, mature and forgiving maybe, but I have my days of EXTREME BRUTALITY 😓