Whenever I get into this "run crappy proprietary messenger via some weird shims and tricks on #PinePhone"-thing I eventually end up thinking: Why can't everybody just use #XMPP or #Matrix?
@linmob I think because communication needs at least two participants, and most people use those proprietary messengers... So using matrix is nice. Selecting your friends by messenger is a way to go... Not even the best I think. You can also become such an annoying person trying to convert anybody to your philosophy... Or just try to get this stuff running... At best by using matrix-Bridges.
@rakor Oh, I am painfully aware of that, trust me. It's just that I remember where both Google Talk and Facebook Messenger were XMPP and if you used Pidgin or another client, you could use your Google Talk account to talk to someone else on Facebook, IIRC. I just wish it would have stayed that way, just adding in OMEMO for proper encryption would have been enough. Instead, we now have a hellscape of proprietary walled gardens.
@linmob well that's really true.... But those days you could not have a true Linux-phone on your pocket (well as mine is unusable I can't be that happy but ok...). So new times bring advantages and disadvantages and without progress we would all be sitting on our fire in our cave...
We just have to use our chances... 😁
@rakor Um, that's not entirely true. Quite a number of HTC built Windows Mobile devices could run Linux at the time, and let's not forget the Motorola EZX phones, OpenMoko or later the Nokia N900. But you are right, let's stay positive and use our chances.